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Old 03-11-2013, 03:16 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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This is pretty common actually. Nothing says the student has to lobby effectively. But if you are going to be a political lawyer or a lobbyist you better learn real fast how to represent political stances that you do not agree with, or your career is going to be pretty limited. He is taking it slightly, and only slightly, more extreme than other classes by requiring actual lobbying, but pretty much every political law class is going to require you to represent a specific set of viewpoints that you may disagree with.

Other than lawyers who are sole practitioners I have never encountered a single attorney who has not at least once been assigned to defend or work for a client they either politically disagreed with or personally detested -- or both. It comes with the territory. These young lawyers should know that now, suck it up and do the assignment (it's good practice no matter where they stand on the issues of sugar and sodas), or rethink their committment to practicing law in the real world.
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Old 03-12-2013, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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What if it is a graduation requirement and he is the only person that teaches it?
Then you should have gone to a law school with more than 10 professors
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:56 AM
 
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Report them.

They are not allowed to, and College Proofs get away with WAYYYY too much.
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Old 03-19-2013, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Central Maine
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I would drop out of the class. Then I would write letters to the dean and the alumni (the "bucks" supporting the college).This is but one example of what I mean by colleges getting involved in activism too much. This isn't an isolated case.
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Old 03-19-2013, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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Then you should have gone to a law school with more than 10 professors

When you get into your major, often there are professors that have a specialty area and will teach as one of their assigned classes, a class that they specifically are experts in. It may or may not be a graduation requirement. It is not uncommon to find a level 400 class that is only available one semester a year and is a requirement for graduation.

C'mon, now. You should know this. The university I went to had and enrollment of over 20,000 and I ran into this.
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Old 03-20-2013, 06:38 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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When you get into your major, often there are professors that have a specialty area and will teach as one of their assigned classes, a class that they specifically are experts in. It may or may not be a graduation requirement. It is not uncommon to find a level 400 class that is only available one semester a year and is a requirement for graduation.

C'mon, now. You should know this. The university I went to had and enrollment of over 20,000 and I ran into this.
I think you are talking about an undergrad major? In which case you were running into the "10 professor" problem likely, as the major itself has relatively few professors even if the school is larger.
A law school is not an undergrad major. The few required courses are going to have multiple professors offering them. On top of that, even specialties will often have the option to take the specialty course with a different professor at a different school.
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Old 03-20-2013, 05:34 PM
 
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Other than lawyers who are sole practitioners I have never encountered a single attorney who has not at least once been assigned to defend or work for a client they either politically disagreed with or personally detested -- or both. It comes with the territory. These young lawyers should know that now, suck it up and do the assignment (it's good practice no matter where they stand on the issues of sugar and sodas), or rethink their committment to practicing law in the real world.
I took a lobbying class in college. I got to choose my issue and the group that I would lobby our local state government for. To make things clear, I was a lobbyist on behalf of the group and all of my communications made sure that committee staffers and legislators knew I was representing the interests of the non profit group. I sent materials over (i.e. reports, proposed legislation, etc.) and made appointments to make a presentation. Surprisingly, only 1 out of 12 legislators blew me off.

I have an issue where the students can't pick their issue or group they are lobbying for and it is unclear whether they are suppose to lobby on their own behalf. If that's true, it is deceptive if they don't mention they are writing letters or preparing reports as part of a class assignment.
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