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Old 07-26-2013, 10:22 PM
 
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OK. First off, I don't think any type of degree is completely useless, not even those for-profit degrees that everybody bashes.

But I thought this forum spends so much time bashing on 'useless' bachelors degrees, it might be fun to have a discussion on more specific and narrow Masters Programs and how they might help you land a job, if at all. If they are too specific, for instance, would it be worth doing a whole Masters on the subject when you could just get a certificate?

I did a quick search of Columbia's Masters Programs and this Masters caught my my eye. Seemed like it was too narrow to help many people in the job market...

Earth and Environmental Science Journalism | Columbia University | Graduate School of Arts and Sciences

Earth and Environmental Journalism. Lo and behold, they are no longer accepting applicants and here is what Columbia has to say on the matter...

Important Note


Due to the current weakness in the job market for environmental journalists, Columbia's dual degree program in Earth & Environmental Science Journalism will not be accepting new students for the foreseeable future.


Lol. Not enough takers I guess. I've found that more of the narrow and specific Masters are offered through the universities' schools of Continuing Education. And often they offer certificates in the same exact thing...

Graduate Programs

Money making racket? I mean having a bachelors degree in the most 'useless' subject from Columbia or NYU is still a bachelors degree from Columbia and NYU and will help you. Will a Masters in 'just anything' help at all?

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Old 07-26-2013, 11:35 PM
 
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OK. First off, I don't think any type of degree is completely useless, not even those for-profit degrees that everybody bashes.

But I thought this forum spends so much time bashing on 'useless' bachelors degrees, it might be fun to have a discussion on more specific and narrow Masters Programs and how they might help you land a job, if at all. If they are too specific, for instance, would it be worth doing a whole Masters on the subject when you could just get a certificate?

I did a quick search of Columbia's Masters Programs and this Masters caught my my eye. Seemed like it was too narrow to help many people in the job market...

Earth and Environmental Science Journalism | Columbia University | Graduate School of Arts and Sciences

Earth and Environmental Journalism. Lo and behold, they are no longer accepting applicants and here is what Columbia has to say on the matter...

Important Note


Due to the current weakness in the job market for environmental journalists, Columbia's dual degree program in Earth & Environmental Science Journalism will not be accepting new students for the foreseeable future.


Lol. Not enough takers I guess. I've found that more of the narrow and specific Masters are offered through the universities' schools of Continuing Education. And often they offer certificates in the same exact thing...

Graduate Programs

Money making racket? I mean having a bachelors degree in the most 'useless' subject from Columbia or NYU is still a bachelors degree from Columbia and NYU and will help you. Will a Masters in 'just anything' help at all?
Probably not. I wanted to get my masters in Spanish, but it's probably not going to happen and even if it did the only thing you can do with a masters in history, spanish, and sometimes english is teach.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:38 PM
 
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Probably not. I wanted to get my masters in Spanish, but it's probably not going to happen and even if it did the only thing you can do with a masters in history, spanish, and sometimes english is teach.
Hardly. Just like intended with every other MA/MS degree, you can finish college and continue onto research.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:46 PM
 
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Disciplines like this are often niche markets of other social sciences disciplines that may not be that viable themselves - this program to journalism, ***** or women's studies to sociology, etc. Formerly a student would have been a student in journalism and focused on the environment, instead of being an environmental journalism student. This pigeonholing is deadly in the job market

They may also straddle multiple disciplines where one is not qualified in either one. While you know something about both, you don't enough about either.
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Old 07-26-2013, 11:57 PM
 
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Probably not. I wanted to get my masters in Spanish, but it's probably not going to happen and even if it did the only thing you can do with a masters in history, spanish, and sometimes english is teach.


not necessarily. buddy of my dad has worked in insurance the last 30 years with a BA in History. Female friend of mine graduated with a BA in English from a regional state university in Ohio and became a supply chain VP for Victoria's Secret Offices out of Columbus, Ohio before she was 30.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:02 AM
 
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OK. First off, I don't think any type of degree is completely useless, not even those for-profit degrees that everybody bashes.

But I thought this forum spends so much time bashing on 'useless' bachelors degrees, it might be fun to have a discussion on more specific and narrow Masters Programs and how they might help you land a job, if at all. If they are too specific, for instance, would it be worth doing a whole Masters on the subject when you could just get a certificate?

I did a quick search of Columbia's Masters Programs and this Masters caught my my eye. Seemed like it was too narrow to help many people in the job market...

Earth and Environmental Science Journalism | Columbia University | Graduate School of Arts and Sciences

Earth and Environmental Journalism. Lo and behold, they are no longer accepting applicants and here is what Columbia has to say on the matter...

Important Note


Due to the current weakness in the job market for environmental journalists, Columbia's dual degree program in Earth & Environmental Science Journalism will not be accepting new students for the foreseeable future.


Lol. Not enough takers I guess. I've found that more of the narrow and specific Masters are offered through the universities' schools of Continuing Education. And often they offer certificates in the same exact thing...

Graduate Programs

Money making racket? I mean having a bachelors degree in the most 'useless' subject from Columbia or NYU is still a bachelors degree from Columbia and NYU and will help you. Will a Masters in 'just anything' help at all?


Bowling Green State University offers a Masters program in Popular Culture. I've always found that one to be interesting yet not entirely sure what the career gain would be.

very true. there are some names out there that will always look good on a resume no matter what the discipline.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:04 AM
 
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Hardly. Just like intended with every other MA/MS degree, you can finish college and continue onto research.
No university is going to allow you to just "do research" you must teach as well, although some schools differ on how much a professor teaches, with some preferring more than others, you will have to do it.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:05 AM
 
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not necessarily. buddy of my dad has worked in insurance the last 30 years with a BA in History. Female friend of mine graduated with a BA in English from a regional state university in Ohio and became a supply chain VP for Victoria's Secret Offices out of Columbus, Ohio before she was 30.
Ok, what part of MASTERS do you not understand?

Btw, your friend worked at VS BEFORE she was promoted and wasn't she an analyst? That's not a VP position.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:07 AM
 
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No university is going to allow you to just "do research" you must teach as well, although some schools differ on how much a professor teaches, with some preferring more than others, you will have to do it.
You don't have to teach when you do research in non-academic institutions.
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:14 AM
 
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You don't have to teach when you do research in non-academic institutions.
Ok ill bite, with a masters in history or spanish, what non academic institution are you referring to
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