The mentality of people who graduate with $100k in student loan debt (starting salary, teachers)
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I know this.
The whatever was for your instant dismissal of Med school applicants having more success in their 2nd year but when the same was said about PT.....
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Many students that get rejected the first year spend that next year beefing up their application so it make perfect sense that they get accepted the next year...
I've never heard about that happening in PT school though....
This is a fact and isn't an urban legend. I can list off 10 students I know in vet and dental school who had to slightly beef up their packet. I gave one example. (DD's roommate in college). Same student same GPA. Nothing impressive but she is a smart girl. She got a 19 on her DAT and around 3.5 GPA in the sciences. She re-took the DAT and got another 19 (a 19 is an average DAT score for incoming dentists). She re-took organic (got a B the 1st time and then got an A on the re-take). She got a part time job pushing paper at a dental clinic while she waited to re-apply. That's it.
The 1st year she got one interview (UofMN) and was declined at the Uof MN. The other 10 schools didn't even want her to write a 2nd essay. The following year she re-applied to the same school. She got 3 offers (Ohio, UofMN, and Marquette). She didn't bother to interview at Midwestern or (I forgot the other college). She chose UofMN because of the lower cost.
I can give Katiana another 10 examples. Applying the following year and showing some improvements is what schools expect to see if you fall a little short. If I put myself in their shoes, I'd be nervous about someone who I wasn't sure had the brains or drive. If you accept them and they drop, the school cannot re-fill that spot. They now have lost $200K-$300K of revenue. Considering my daughter DAT was slightly higher and her GPA (overall) and in the sciences was 0.3 highers than hers, I predict she too would have gotten in the UofMN on her 2nd try (she was wait listed year 1). Oh, she got an A in honors Organic the 1st time and worked in healthcare while going to college. The facts are the UofMN didn't want her the 1st time around. It's all to common. The UofMN numbers were 1100 applicants, 230 offers and 95 accepted. Looking at those numbers, OF COURSE there will be a lot of people who get turned down year one.
I cannot speak for PT. But I can speak for vet school. We have several daughter friends that are in vet school and have experienced the same thing with different stories. I think we can agree that UofMN may be different than CO. Also, PT may be different in the same school as a dental path.
Last edited by MN-Born-n-Raised; 03-13-2014 at 06:58 AM..
Nice she has you to cover those costs...we will help some, maybe with living expenses, but the rest is on her .
After year one, I'm done covering the whole nickel. We passed on vacations, remodeling etc. That wasn't a problem as it is just stuff. I have a hard time seeing my kids with that kind of debt. But I don't want to eat Alpo dog food at age 80 either. Luckily my sons grad school and UG are "free". I've told my DD many times she should be thanking him often. That's how I rationalized helping her as much as we did. She didn't pay a nickel for UG and just $3K (summer work) for the dental college. At least I will eventually get some free dental work.
After year one, I'm done covering the whole nickel. We passed on vacations, remodeling etc. That wasn't a problem as it is just stuff. I have a hard time seeing my kids with that kind of debt. But I don't want to eat Alpo dog food at age 80 either. Luckily my sons grad school and UG are "free". I've told my DD many times she should be thanking him often. That's how I rationalized helping her as much as we did. She didn't pay a nickel for UG and just $3K (summer work) for the dental college. At least I will eventually get some free dental work.
I'm hoping the same..free dental work when I'm old and expensive
We really should have had more kids though--a mechanic, a handyman, etc. so we could get all kinds of free stuff in our old age
So far the kids aren't paying anything for UG, so that is nice.
I'm hoping the same..free dental work when I'm old and expensive
We really should have had more kids though--a mechanic, a handyman, etc. so we could get all kinds of free stuff in our old age
So far the kids aren't paying anything for UG, so that is nice.
Lol, it's good to know your kids don't have to struggle.
My DD was over yesterday (she attends dental school in AZ where we winter). I asked her to guess the percentage of 1st year students.
She said about 1/3 were accepted the 1st year out of UG, 1/3 got in the 2nd year after UG by re-applying and about 1/3 having unique stories (going back after 4 years, 40 year old hygienists going back to be a dentist, etc). These numbers are not scientific. They are her guesstimates.
In 2011 young adults with a college degree earned about $45K per year (average). Those without a college degree earned about $30K per year. It only takes 2 years to make back your $30K debt. Why do you think that isn't worth it?
$45k is going to be a hard mark to hit with a degree unless you are in a high COL area. I just now broke the $50k barrier and could have never done it living in the South. If you are a regular person living somewhere like the South, a nonspecialized degree will NOT be worth it.
$45k is going to be a hard mark to hit with a degree unless you are in a high COL area. I just now broke the $50k barrier and could have never done it living in the South. If you are a regular person living somewhere like the South, a nonspecialized degree will NOT be worth it.
Not really--average salary nationally, which has been quoted in many different threads here, for 1st year college grads in 2013 was just shy of $50,000.
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