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Old 10-31-2014, 03:54 PM
 
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sorry, I am a foreigner

Law is my passion (worked in the legal field in Germany for 14 years) but I dont have the brains nor are my English skills good enough for being an attorney in the US.

So the bachelors in paralegal studies is the major I LIKE the most. I will probaly get a masters in HR. I want to stay in an office environment but dont like accounting (I just dont get it) nor the MBA (too much math).

No problem. But don't sell yourself short. Law isn't brain surgery but it does require a different mindset. For many people law school just doesn't make economic sense. Especially now. Accounting to me is mind numbingly boring as well as business classes. I'm sure you'll do well in HR. And for what it's worth I think you have a good grasp of the English language.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:56 PM
 
Location: SoCal again
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No problem. But don't sell yourself short. Law isn't brain surgery but it does require a different mindset. For many people law school just doesn't make economic sense. Especially now. Accounting to me is mind numbingly boring as well as business classes. I'm sure you'll do well in HR. And for what it's worth I think you have a good grasp of the English language.
Yes, but there is a huge difference in being able to chitchat and interpreting a court opinion.

HR sounds way less complicated

Thanks though
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Old 11-03-2014, 02:25 AM
 
Location: IL
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As a IL paralegal I can tell you from what I know that CJ is not a great job. Most people can hire a "Public Defender" lawyer for free. It's just not going to pay off. The CJ DEGREE will pay off in the Security Job Market for higher pay as well as for all Military or retired police in IL.
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Old 11-04-2014, 10:33 PM
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Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Correlation is not causation. CJ is probably the lowest scoring on LSAT/admissions not because it doesn't prepare you for the LSAT (college majors really don't do this in general) or because schools somehow look down on it (they don't), but because people in CJ majors are probably not the highest IQ people to begin with judging by the LSAT metric. LSAT performance (especially) and law school admissions have very little relation to undergrad major.

Want to do criminal law or work in the criminal justice system? Then CJ is probably fine, just study for the LSAT and get a decent score. The CJ major itself is not the problem.
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Old 11-05-2014, 01:48 AM
 
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economics is one of the highest? how easy is the lsat? economics is a joke (dual computer science and economics major).
OK, I see two possibilities:

(1) You are a genius, IQ 170 or higher. You very well might find economics easy.

(2) You went to a terrible school where economics, as taught, is a joke.

What are you talking about? (I am a trained economist.)
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Old 11-05-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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Correlation is not causation. CJ is probably the lowest scoring on LSAT/admissions not because it doesn't prepare you for the LSAT (college majors really don't do this in general) or because schools somehow look down on it (they don't), but because people in CJ majors are probably not the highest IQ people to begin with judging by the LSAT metric. LSAT performance (especially) and law school admissions have very little relation to undergrad major.

Want to do criminal law or work in the criminal justice system? Then CJ is probably fine, just study for the LSAT and get a decent score. The CJ major itself is not the problem.
I agree with everything you said except for how schools look at CJ majors. An empirical study was done on how law schools view various majors. They generally had a low a opinion of CJ programs.

Edit: I wouldn't steer anyone to a specific program just because they want to go into criminal law. Study whatever you want. CJ programs are not heavy on law. They are heavy on the sociological aspects of policing, corrections, and criminal behavior.

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Old 11-05-2014, 11:02 AM
 
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Well my understanding for law school is that any writing intensive major is good choice for law school. I have read that CJ majors have lowest overall LSAT scores. Criminal is only half of law. People forget that about the civil side of law, which is where, IMHO, the money is made.

I was always told philosophy was the best major for pre law because of the nurturing of the ability to understand complex arguments as well as practice in developing your own, plus all the critical reading/writing/oral argument practice within the discipline.

History, political science, sociology and english all were close seconds.

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Old 11-05-2014, 12:09 PM
 
Location: NY/LA
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Out of curiosity, are there any other disciplines besides patent law that REQUIRE specific majors?
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Old 11-05-2014, 12:37 PM
 
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Out of curiosity, are there any other disciplines besides patent law that REQUIRE specific majors?
No. Even patent law only requires specific degrees (usually Masters or PhD in a science) for patent prosecution attorneys. Patent litigation attorneys can have (and often do have) any degree. Patent litigation teams do, however, often have at least one attorney with a relevant technical background.
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Old 11-05-2014, 12:44 PM
 
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No problem. But don't sell yourself short. Law isn't brain surgery but it does require a different mindset. For many people law school just doesn't make economic sense. Especially now. Accounting to me is mind numbingly boring as well as business classes. I'm sure you'll do well in HR. And for what it's worth I think you have a good grasp of the English language.

Hey,hey accounting is fun!! Honestly, it's a different language and in college it does appear to be all numbers, but it's not.
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