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Old 12-19-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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There is a for-profit community college here in NYC (I won't name it!) Tuition is a bit over $12,000. And that is tuition, alone. CUNY CC's are 1/3 of that in tuition.

There was a note in the article about sales techniques. Well, this for-protit has a football program. Not only were there subway ads about the school's athletics, but even "Nick Saban recruited" there, according to the website.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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I'm not familiar with business administration at the undergraduate level. But there's no way you can get an MBA completely online. I've observed MBA programs at Wharton, Harvard (ugh), Rutgers (also ugh) and Columbia. MBAs require you to be constantly dealing with real world problems presented by real companies. You have to go from company to company, assess their problems and provide assessments. You also study case studies which require you to interview economists, financial researchers, professors and CEOs to understand. I can assure you that you can't do that online or on a phone. I also assure you that the CEO of Johnson & Johnson is not going to speak to an online class about the Tylenol case. Something that they will do to a class at a real b&m university.

In regards to hospitality, it's all tacit knowledge. My cousin went through the hospitality program at Cornell. The program is part textbook theory and part practical study. One of the things he had to do (with his class) was find a location and design a successful hotel for Hilton brand hotels. Matt Hart himself came in and spent several sessions with the class and eventually was responsible for grading the student's efforts. You think that students at an online school can get that kind of experience and learning?
My wife just finished her MBA on-line from a major B&M, yes it can be done. Some of her classes did have guest lectures who conducted Q&As on-line in real time. I work at a large tech company. We have offices all over the world, with R&D teams scattered all over the world. Our teams manage to develop multimillion dollar products with the majority of the team members never meeting face-to-face. All business conducted on-line, on the phone, and via video conferencing. The world is changing, and based on your attitude you'll be the one left behind.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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There is a for-profit community college here in NYC (I won't name it!) Tuition is a bit over $12,000. And that is tuition, alone. CUNY CC's are 1/3 of that in tuition.

There was a note in the article about sales techniques. Well, this for-protit has a football program. Not only were there subway ads about the school's athletics, but even "Nick Saban recruited" there, according to the website.
The ad is correct. OT Leon Brown, 6-6, 315, signed with Bama!

Now that I've said that, the school is Asa! They actually went 9-1. And how is a for-profit juco school in NYC getting 6-6, 315 pound football players?
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Land of Free Johnson-Weld-2016
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Declining? LOL
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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My wife just finished her MBA on-line from a major B&M, yes it can be done. Some of her classes did have guest lectures who conducted Q&As on-line in real time. I work at a large tech company. We have offices all over the world, with R&D teams scattered all over the world. Our teams manage to develop multimillion dollar products with the majority of the team members never meeting face-to-face. All business conducted on-line, on the phone, and via video conferencing. The world is changing, and based on your attitude you'll be the one left behind.
I will follow up with one thing. If you're getting an MBA or similar Masters there is one big advantage of a traditional on campus degree. Networking. Two of my co-workers finished their MBA's in the past year, and they said this was the biggest plus of the program. You meet a lot of people in industry and often form bounds with them through your classes. While you also network with people in on-line courses, odds are they're not in the same city as you. Good if you're looking to move, but not great for local connections.
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Old 12-22-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA..don't go to GSU
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The world of higher education will be a better place when the University of Phoenix and similar for profit diploma mills are flushed from existence.
Staple this on the forehead of everyone who has any connection with University of Phoenix.
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:17 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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Irony: Regionally Accredited online Master's degree in every other subject besides history? A billion or so.
Regionally Accredited online Master's in History? 2 or 3.

Why?
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Old 12-22-2012, 11:59 PM
 
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I'm not quite sure what you're asking. For-profit schools pretty much only offer degrees that are in high demand by their customers. Some of them attract a certain set of clientele, so they will offer degree programs in subjects like history. The American Public University System is one of them. There are a lot more than just 2 or 3 online master's programs in history with most of them probably being offered by non-profit schools.
27 Online History Disciplines Masters Programs & Graduate Schools Page No: 1 - GradSchools.com
Online Degree Search Results: 1358 Accredited Online Masters Degree Programs | GetEducated.com
Online Masters Degrees in History - Online Masters Degree Programs in History
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Old 12-23-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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Thanks for trying--but did you look carefully at these links? I have before, but I looked again.

Some are overseas schools (degrees no good in US), many are for (yawn) military history, or are theologically based and pushing a religion, or Masters of Education with History emphasis--not the same. The second link doesn't even list History in the subject list.

Yes, there were 2 or 3 for a straight Masters in History...which is what I originally stated. But, thanks again.
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:26 PM
 
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I don't know what happened to the second link, but I counted 4 degree programs in the 1st and 3rd. The University of Louisiana - Monroe offers an online master's in history, so that's 5. According to the Southern Association website, Western Kentucky University offers an online master's in history. That makes 6. I think I have a list of more at home, but I don't have access to that document now.

Just to be clear:
Norwich University
Union Institute & University (I didn't count this since it's in History and Culture)
American Public and American Military University
Sam Houston State University
Wayland Baptist University (this school has a religious affiliation like many private schools (Baylor), but it is mainstream)
Emporia State University
Western Kentucky University
University of Louisiana - Monroe
With a quick Google search, I found this:
Online Masters in History Degree | University of Nebraska Online Worldwide

There are more than just 2 or 3 straight online master's in history.
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