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Most people get into Harvard because of family connections and/or money. They usually aren't that smart, just wealthy, well connected, and taught how to ace the application and admittance process.
Hardly surprising. The Ivy League is a finishing school for the illegitimate faux-intellectual elite. They're not actually particularly smart.
Hilarious, but that only applies to a very small percentage of Ivy League students. Less than 1%.
While Ivy League schools aren't unique to this, they encompass the brightest and most intellectual students. But the same could be said about other adequate schools such as NYU and JHU.
Most people get into Harvard because of family connections and/or money. They usually aren't that smart, just wealthy, well connected, and taught how to ace the application and admittance process.
Some do, but most people who attend Harvard do so on legitimate merit. Stop listening to propaganda.
The prison team just won. It doesn't have to mean anything. There are smart people in prison too, you know. Besides, they had the time and motivation to focus on just this one task. The Harvard kids had to hold down classes, etc while preparing for the debate. So if anything, the prisoners had an edge.
Congrats to them! I hope something good comes out of this for the prisoners, besides the emotional satisfaction. I mean that's pretty great all by itself but it would be nice if some kind of post-prison opportunity also materialized.
The prison team just won. It doesn't have to mean anything. There are smart people in prison too, you know. Besides, they had the time and motivation to focus on just this one task. The Harvard kids had to hold down classes, etc while preparing for the debate. So if anything, the prisoners had an edge.
Congrats to them! I hope something good comes out of this for the prisoners, besides the emotional satisfaction. I mean that's pretty great all by itself but it would be nice if some kind of post-prison opportunity also materialized.
This same issue comes up whenever that one high school robotics team beats a robotics team at MIT at something. Doesn't that happen almost every year? Reporters lap it up, because they love the David vs. Goliath angle, but it's really a matter of one group having a bunch of time to dedicate to something while the other group has more important things to do.
I remember entering a robot competition while I was in school. I'm sure my team would have done a lot better (we didn't do that badly) if I didn't have another five classes on my schedule at the time, all of which covered material for my major. The robot class was just something extra for fun. The only reason my team did well at all was that everyone else in the class had a bunch of other work to do, as well.
I'd also classify debate as something similar to chess. It's an activity that the general public tends to associate with intelligence far more than it really deserves. The best chess players in the world are not the world's smartest people, and most of the world's smartest people are terrible at chess. Getting good at it requires a ton of dedication and memorization (so it does require some intelligence), which is very different from a game where smart people would be naturally good. Chess, like debate, requires lots and lots of training. I know this because I enjoyed it when I was young but gave it up because I needed to dedicate a lot of time to school, so I was forced to cut my list of hobbies down to something I could manage. Chess didn't make the cut.
Naturally, there are a lot of prisoners who are really good at chess for the same reason prisoners can do well at debates.
Of course, all of the "Ivy kids aren't smart!" nonsense is just sour grapes.
Most people get into Harvard because of family connections and/or money. They usually aren't that smart, just wealthy, well connected, and taught how to ace the application and admittance process.
Average SAT score of incoming Harvard freshman is around 2200....yeah they aren't that smart
You are also wrong about "most" being wealthy and well connected....as for "acing" the application process, its pretty easy actually just get straight A's for 4 years take around 12-16 AP classes, score over 2100 on the SAT and you will have about a 7% chance of getting in along with the other thousands of applicants with the same resume...
Average SAT score of incoming Harvard freshman is around 2200....yeah they aren't that smart
You are also wrong about "most" being wealthy and well connected....as for "acing" the application process, its pretty easy actually just get straight A's for 4 years take around 12-16 AP classes, score over 2100 on the SAT and you will have about a 7% chance of getting in along with the other thousands of applicants with the same resume...
If you actually went to Harvard or any Ivy League school for that matter, like I did you would know that the SAT is a a standardized test. With enough instruction and practice, one can easily master it and beat it. When it comes to testing standardize means predictable.
Of course only the rich and wealthy can afford the best test prep classes and instructors. Some even pay others to take it for them.
Like I said, if you actually went to Harvard, you would know the environment is full of privilege and elitism. Almost everyone is well connected to someone rich, famous, and/or important.
Last edited by toobusytoday; 10-07-2015 at 08:08 AM..
Reason: removed the insult
I saw this mentioned on social media and I actually ROFLMAO....because it reminds me so much of that game show "Are you smarter than a 5th Grader"..and it just shows to go you..incarcerated folks are NOT stupid, as so many would love to paint them ALL as thugs/losers or worse....This actually disproves things on so many levels!!
Finally reality disproves what those within our society ( those myopic/narrow minded types) with their preconceived ideations about those "OTHERS"!!
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