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Yeah, right. Those phantom "trades" that pay $100k that are always mentioned in articles touting vocational education over college but which are never specifically named ... or are you talking about the guys making $18/hour as journeymen plumbers after ten years?
There are very few but, positions in the oil and gas industry, oilfield and rig workers as well as welders can on the high end make around 90.
The fact that the trades have been demonized for decades have led to a shortage in those fields and those currently working in those positions are working many overtime hours to accompany the demand. With the overtime there quite a few plumbers and electricians around my area that do well for themselves.
Purely speculating on my part, but the shortage may drive up the wages for licensed electricians and plumbers. After all you can't out source the repair of a leaky faucet.
Also outside of the trades, other professions with out a college degree, firefighters, some UPS positions, post office workers and police officers are nicely compensated.
There are very few but, positions in the oil and gas industry, oilfield and rig workers as well as welders can on the high end make around 90.
The fact that the trades have been demonized for decades have led to a shortage in those fields and those currently working in those positions are working many overtime hours to accompany the demand. With the overtime there quite a few plumbers and electricians around my area that do well for themselves.
Purely speculating on my part, but the shortage may drive up the wages for licensed electricians and plumbers. After all you can't out source the repair of a leaky faucet.
Also outside of the trades, other professions with out a college degree, firefighters, some UPS positions, post office workers and police officers are nicely compensated.
They have not been demonized. The trades always had people work overtime in them. They are dangerous, so those who can get better jobs often DO so. A lot of those men working all this overtime in the trades you mention will end up collecting disability checks.
Someone will always do those types of jobs, and yes they are important. But there are reasons why people don't see them as ideal jobs.
There are soooo many variables going on here. For instance there are studies showing that kids from wealthy backgrounds are more likely to be risk takers, which generally pays off with far better pay.
There are very few but, positions in the oil and gas industry, oilfield and rig workers as well as welders can on the high end make around 90.
The fact that the trades have been demonized for decades have led to a shortage in those fields and those currently working in those positions are working many overtime hours to accompany the demand. With the overtime there quite a few plumbers and electricians around my area that do well for themselves.
Purely speculating on my part, but the shortage may drive up the wages for licensed electricians and plumbers. After all you can't out source the repair of a leaky faucet.
Also outside of the trades, other professions with out a college degree, firefighters, some UPS positions, post office workers and police officers are nicely compensated.
These trades are tied to infrastructure. Welders, industrial level plumbers/pipeworkers, bricklayers, industrial HVAC, road crews, etc. These rely on infrastructure spending which has been nill lately.
These trades are tied to infrastructure. Welders, industrial level plumbers/pipeworkers, bricklayers, industrial HVAC, road crews, etc. These rely on infrastructure spending which has been nill lately.
Some are, not all plumbers and electricians are though. What about commercial and residential? And not all welder positions are tied to infrastructure.
There are very few but, positions in the oil and gas industry, oilfield and rig workers as well as welders can on the high end make around 90.
The fact that the trades have been demonized for decades have led to a shortage in those fields and those currently working in those positions are working many overtime hours to accompany the demand. With the overtime there quite a few plumbers and electricians around my area that do well for themselves.
Purely speculating on my part, but the shortage may drive up the wages for licensed electricians and plumbers. After all you can't out source the repair of a leaky faucet.
Also outside of the trades, other professions with out a college degree, firefighters, some UPS positions, post office workers and police officers are nicely compensated.
Nah, the fact is that a career industrial welder is doomed to develop some serious chronic health issues in his 40s have much more to do with demonization. Blue collar jobs kill, you'll die younger and in pain.
Some are, not all plumbers and electricians are though. What about commercial and residential? And not all welder positions are tied to infrastructure.
Thats why I said industrial, those are the 100k paying trades the poster was talking about. You wont make 100k a year doing residential unless you own the company or have been doing it for 30 years.
They have not been demonized. The trades always had people work overtime in them. They are dangerous, so those who can get better jobs often DO so. A lot of those men working all this overtime in the trades you mention will end up collecting disability checks.
Someone will always do those types of jobs, and yes they are important. But there are reasons why people don't see them as ideal jobs.
Yeah demonize was the wrong word, too early and not enough coffee, sorry. I should have edited it.
There are consequences to the trades, I don't deny that. Not everyone has to do them their entire lives, some can move up to higher paying positions, inspectors and such, by using their training in a trade as a stepping stone and thus getting themselves away from the extremely strenuous positions.
My point in responding was to prove the point that you can be well compensated in a position without a college degree, though there are pitfalls associated with them, mainly the toll it takes on one's body.
Thats why I said industrial, those are the 100k paying trades the poster was talking about. You wont make 100k a year doing residential unless you own the company or have been doing it for 30 years.
When I asked about commercial and residential it was because you quoted my previous post and said all the trades I mentioned were tied to infrastructure. I realize commercial or residential won't warrant six figures.
Nah, the fact is that a career industrial welder is doomed to develop some serious chronic health issues in his 40s have much more to do with demonization. Blue collar jobs kill, you'll die younger and in pain.
I agree with you, though one who gets into industrial welding does not need to stay there their entire life, there is upward mobility to safer positions. The points I'm trying to make are not everyone wants to work a white collar job and that a decent living can be made based off of a trade.
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