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Old 06-16-2016, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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When did I say beliefs I don't like don't exist? I said I'm against these things, not that they don't exist. I know what the Left believes. What will I get from being around them?
I will learn new ideas at NSA( the ideas of all those Classical authors I read) As I said before, I could just as easily say that the kids at Reed are being indoctrinated. You should read Ben Shapiros book "Brainwashed: How Universities Indoctrinate America's Youth" There's very few people as smart as he is. He attended UCLA and Harvard Law, and said that he wrote like a Communist because professors would give bad grades to those with conservative opinions. He also recommended that "Conservatives look for schools that are in line with their values" Let me tell you something else. I was at one point very interested in a small Liberal Arts college in the North. I asked the admissions office if there were any Conservstive professors in the Politicsl Science department. They gave me the name of the 1 Conservstive in the department, and I contacted him.( I'm not giving out the name of the college or the professor, because our contact was confidential) I asked him the following question
"I have heard stories about conservative students getting bad grades at Liberal colleges due to their views. This is something I really want to avoid. Would I get points taken off of papers because of my conservative views at X College?"

He said "Like so many schools we have taken a lurch to the left. You will experience that at most schools. X is probably toward the worse end of the spectrum in this regard. But there are conservative students here and they will make good fellows. I would hope most of the faculty would be open to diverse views, but I am a realist. To be in the minority always takes some courage; but it is good for the soul."

That being the case, why should I attend a secular school at all?
Again, are you really asking for thoughts, or do you just want to argue?
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:11 AM
 
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A secular school like Harvard?
As I said, I want a Conservative safe-space for undergrad. I'll deal with Harvard when I get there.
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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Again, are you really asking for thoughts, or do you just want to argue?
I wanted y'all's thoughts on the article and the college.
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:16 AM
 
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"There are those who wouldn't find that sort of a higher ed experience to be particularly worthwhile or enlightening. "
Could you elaborate?
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:53 AM
 
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This person just wants to argue. He or she keeps bringing up politics in an education sub-forum. The OP should try posting in the Politics and Controversies or Religion forum.

New Saint Andrews is nationally accredited. That means that there will be a limited number of schools where the credits will transfer and a limited number of graduate schools that will recognize their undergraduate degrees. Degrees earned at regionally accredited schools are accepted just about anywhere. Some state and local government agencies don't even recognize national accreditors. They're legitimate, but largely regarded as less rigorous in their accreditation standards.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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OP: Getting an education at a school where everyone thinks just like you is just a bad idea, whether you re liberal or conservative, devout or athiest, post-modern or classical. It isn't fundamentally a college education if you never have to argue, defend, or explain your beliefs to fellow students or professors when it comes to things political, social, or spiritual. It's studying in an echo chamber, not a university.

You say you want a "safe" space for your conservative beliefs. Well, a real education is NOT safe. It is challenging, intellectually dangerous, and exposes you up to ideas and experiences you've never had -- both academic and otherwise. This place appears ill-suited to do that.

My thoughts are as before: Find a more highly respected (and more highly accredited) religious school to attend like Wheaton (non-denominational Christian), or Pepperdine (Churches of Christ), or Thomas More (Catholic, but into the Great Books and highly intellectual). Or pick a big secular schools that has the coursework you want. You can find that at Chicago, Columbia, and St. John's, among many others. And like I say, almost all big secular schools have a community of socially and religiously conservative students to join.

Got to school to get what you need, not just what you think you want.
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Old 06-16-2016, 07:02 PM
 
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OP: Getting an education at a school where everyone thinks just like you is just a bad idea, whether you re liberal or conservative, devout or athiest, post-modern or classical. It isn't fundamentally a college education if you never have to argue, defend, or explain your beliefs to fellow students or professors when it comes to things political, social, or spiritual. It's studying in an echo chamber, not a university.

You say you want a "safe" space for your conservative beliefs. Well, a real education is NOT safe. It is challenging, intellectually dangerous, and exposes you up to ideas and experiences you've never had -- both academic and otherwise. This place appears ill-suited to do that.

My thoughts are as before: Find a more highly respected (and more highly accredited) religious school to attend like Wheaton (non-denominational Christian), or Pepperdine (Churches of Christ), or Thomas More (Catholic, but into the Great Books and highly intellectual). Or pick a big secular schools that has the coursework you want. You can find that at Chicago, Columbia, and St. John's, among many others. And like I say, almost all big secular schools have a community of socially and religiously conservative students to join.

Got to school to get what you need, not just what you think you want.
How about Hillsdale?
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:30 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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I know Hillsdale rep is very politically conservative and its academics very traditional. As to the religious angle and social living conditions I don't know. But it is IIRC regionally accredited, which is good. It might be worth looking into.
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Old 06-16-2016, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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"There are those who wouldn't find that sort of a higher ed experience to be particularly worthwhile or enlightening. "
Could you elaborate?
Sure.

Many look to college as a time to broaden horizons and gain perspective beyond whatever is already ingrained. One could argue that surrounding yourself only with people who are in lockstep with you and never challenge your ideas is intellectually lazy.
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Old 06-17-2016, 08:15 AM
 
Location: usa
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I don't think you'd actually be accepted to harvard law school from a college like this. I mean, go ahead and try. it's your money.

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