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Old 02-21-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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I am a conservative student at a tiny liberal arts college, and I knew I'd be in the minority politically, but this semester is shocking to me at how anti-Trump stuff is being brought up in classes that should have nothing to do with politics (business, public speaking, etc) and how a couple of homework assignments have required me to write a paper or a couple of sentences bashing Trump and going against his decisions. I've bitten my tongue and did it to get a good grade, but I did not like it. Also, more than half of the events on campus are held specifically to bash conservatives and the "alternative right" movement. There are socialist, borderline Communist, speakers all the time, and I once had to attend a mandatory rally for one class where a speaker said, "Guys, what we all need to realize is that people who say they support Donald Trump really have no facts or evidence to back it up and are just saying it to be different." I've bitten my tongue and kept my mouth shut for the most part, but have had 2 people stop speaking to me altogether strictly because of the fact that I am a Republican and don't support feminism, but rather plain old equality. I will more than likely not be here next year for unrelated reasons, but I'm just wondering if parents agree that this stuff should stop at LACs (because whether they realize it or not, there are Republican students) or if they think it is okay.

 
Old 02-21-2017, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I started at the University of Texas in 1993. Even then, being a conservative in that university atmosphere was different in a little bit challenging (in terms of the other students mostly).

However, I don't feel like my education was stunted.

Throughout your whole life, I hope you learn to surround yourself with people who have different ideas and different points of view. It only enriches your experience and actually makes you smarter in the long run. It also teaches you how to deal with situations where you feel like you're the only one standing up for what's right.

I don't like the idea of politics being pushed on my kids at an early age by people with agendas, but that's simply unavoidable as you get older.
And what you need to do is examine your convictions, don't be afraid to *reexamine* your convictions, and then stand up for what you believe in.

The worst thing that could happen is that you could become just like the people that you are saying are being judgemental and small-minded. Remember that statistically it's very unlikely that you are right about everything.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 12:40 PM
 
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I started at the University of Texas in 1993. Even then, being a conservative in that university atmosphere was different in a little bit challenging (in terms of the other students mostly).

However, I don't feel like my education was stunted.

Throughout your whole life, I hope you learn to surround yourself with people who have different ideas and different points of view. It only enriches your experience and actually makes you smarter in the long run. It also teaches you how to deal with situations where you feel like you're the only one standing up for what's right.

I don't like the idea of politics being pushed on my kids at an early age by people with agendas, but that's simply unavoidable as you get older.
And what you need to do is examine your convictions, don't be afraid to *reexamine* your convictions, and then stand up for what you believe in.

The worst thing that could happen is that you could become just like the people that you are saying are being judgemental and small-minded. Remember the statistically it's very unlikely that you are right about everything.
I'm perfectly fine with different political views and enjoy civil diversity it promotes. But it seems like the liberality here is pushed in my face and I am a bad person for thinking differently.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I'm perfectly fine with different political views and enjoy civil diversity it promotes. But it seems like the liberality here is pushed in my face and I am a bad person for thinking differently.
Yes, and that's very annoying.
And I had to face that a lot. Especially as a gay woman who wanted to date other gay women.
You think for a second that thone mostly rabid lefties wanted to have anything to do with me?
But what I learned was that the really smart, emotionally mature ones who had open minds and were more willing to intellectually examine all points of view were the ones I wanted to be with anyway.

And those are the friends and colleagues you should choose to spend time with, as well. Liberal or conservative. You shouldn't be friends with a conservative with a closed mind either.

What I find super ironic about the liberal mentality is that they are always talking about doing things for other people and caring about other people and making sure everyone else is taken care of, but then they are so freaking rude to your face all the time.
I can't wrap my head around how self-righteous they can be about people's rights, etc, but at the same time walk around treating everyone else like crap.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 12:52 PM
 
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Yes, and that's very annoying.
And I had to face that a lot. Especially as a gay woman who wanted to date other gay women.
You think for a second that thone mostly rabid lefties wanted to have anything to do with me?
But what I learned was that the really smart, emotionally mature ones who had open minds and were more willing to intellectually examine all points of view were the ones I wanted to be with anyway.

And those are the friends and colleagues you should choose to spend time with, as well. Liberal or conservative. You shouldn't be friends with a conservative with a closed mind either.

What I find super ironic about the liberal mentality is that they are always talking about doing things for other people and caring about other people and making sure everyone else is taken care of, but then they are so freaking rude to your face all the time.
I can't wrap my head around how self-righteous they can be about people's rights, etc, but at the same time walk around treating everyone else like crap.
True. Plus defense of radical Muslims, who go against everything they stand for. And according to them someone like you is "not supposed to be" conservative.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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True. Plus defense of radical Muslims, who go against everything they stand for. And according to them someone like you is "not supposed to be" conservative.
Yes.
I've heard it all.
What's really funny is it the Democratic party has done very little to advance gay rights. But for some reason all gay people should be Democrats.
What I find even more offensive is the idea that my entire identity, belief system, core values, friends, hobbies, etc should be based around the fact that I like to sleep with women. What kind of ridiculous notion is that?
 
Old 02-21-2017, 12:58 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The entire country has been bitten in the ass by our public education system. It is not the young students' fault.
You are witnessing an extension of the problem with public education where the "right" answer is the one that demonizes Trump. For the past 8 years the "right" answer was the one that lionizes Obama and blames America for the world's ills. That was the FOURTH GRADE for some of your classmates. And for years before that the "right" answer was the one that demonized Bush.

The Democratic party recognized early on that young minds are the most easily manipulated and moved in to capture the minds of students, the texts that teach them, and the unions that control the teachers. It was a relatively easy sell for The Democratic Party, which received $33.2 million from the teachers unions in 2016.
As people grow older and accumulate their own experiences they become more conservative.

Fortunately, few students actually vote.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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That is the new world order. If it doesn't comply with the liberal dogma, it's evil.

When I was in college it wasn't as pronounced, but it was still there in the mandatory writing classes and other required courses that had absolutely nothing to do with my major.
I spoke up once, and had to attend a sensitivity training class!

Look, college is a theoretical alternative universe where all of these wild eyed wacko philosophies are floated without any reality checks.
They take on their own life because no-one is allowed to speak against them, and the professors because they never hear a dissenting point of view from their peers who also live in the college bubble, believe that tripe is real. It doesn't work in the real world, but they don't know that.

The fields I've worked in are mostly believed to be liberal, but in reality, the people actually doing the work are usually pretty conservative. You can exercise your free speech elsewhere. On the job you aren't hired for your political views, you're hired to work.

Dealing with the left has taught me over and over that my conservative views are correct, so I get validation from that instead of getting on a soapbox at work like they do.

You just have to decide for yourself in college if this is a hill you want to die on. College doesn't last forever, and while it's infuriating to listen to the liberal hogwash day after day, you can work the system to give them what they want, get what you want, (your degree), then you can tell them to stick it in their ear, and when they come to you for those alumni contributions, THEN you can tell them exactly what you think of them!

Money is about the only thing that influences them.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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Eh, just ignore it. I dealt with that stuff 15 years ago when I was in school. I can even remember some of the specific debates I had with professors on certain subjects. What was funny was that I was in the engineering program, and most of the students, professors, and even my current coworkers today had conservative leanings. I even remember we had a 4-hr break between classes on Thursdays and myself and a few student friends would go trap shooting for a few hours. This was just outside of Boston, which was a pretty blue area. It was the few electives and humanities courses with mixed student bodies that presented the debates.


Of course...if we are going to talk about having a POV shoved down your throat...i went to Catholic HS. Needless to say, I don't like being told what I should believe.
 
Old 02-21-2017, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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The entire country has been bitten in the ass by our public education system. It is not the young students' fault.
You are witnessing an extension of the problem with public education where the "right" answer is the one that demonizes Trump. For the past 8 years the "right" answer was the one that lionizes Obama and blames America for the world's ills. That was the FOURTH GRADE for some of your classmates. And for years before that the "right" answer was the one that demonized Bush.

The Democratic party recognized early on that young minds are the most easily manipulated and moved in to capture the minds of students, the texts that teach them, and the unions that control the teachers. It was a relatively easy sell for The Democratic Party, which received $33.2 million from the teachers unions in 2016.
As people grow older and accumulate their own experiences they become more conservative.

Fortunately, few students actually vote.
The OP is not a K-12 public school student, but rather a young adult who has chosen a private college that is more socially liberal in character than he is comfortable with. He obviously has every right to attend or not attend. College is not compulsory, nor is it necessary that he enroll or remain enrolled at a school that is not a good fit for him.

To the OP, it is interesting that you appear to be of the opinion that parents of young adults in college ought to have a say in how private liberal arts colleges are run and what the overall political atmosphere at a given school is.

If you are not happy with the political climate at your school, and you feel it is negatively impacting your learning experience, transfer to a school that better suits your preferences. You are, after all, an adult. What does parental opinion of how colleges are run have to do with anything?
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