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Old 04-21-2017, 08:11 AM
 
Location: USA
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I highly recommend a book by Aaron Clarey entitled "Worthless". It's geared towards young people just graduating high school or those considering going back to college.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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Miami man, Miami
I guess it depends on who you are dating.

I have worked in call centers, and right now the girl that I am talking to is a nurse of all people lol. She knows what I do, and she doesn't care.

I would just take that as that is what they are after and move on to the next one.
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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I guess it depends on who you are dating.

I have worked in call centers, and right now the girl that I am talking to is a nurse of all people lol. She knows what I do, and she doesn't care.

I would just take that as that is what they are after and move on to the next one.
yeah ive often wondered if its just a Miami thing
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Old 04-21-2017, 09:40 AM
 
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yeah ive often wondered if its just a Miami thing
It's the thing of any large metro where every aspect of life is highly competitive.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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Skipping a degree doesn't guarantee you a job, just lower pay.


Maybe if you don't waste your education on a Liberal Arts degree or some other useless program you might have a better shot at it.


There are no guarantees in life besides death and taxes.
Short, sweet and true.
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Old 04-21-2017, 10:13 AM
 
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College was originally supposed to be about an education, not a job training program.
Which was great until the costs started greatly outpacing inflation year after year after year...................
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:00 AM
 
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Which was great until the costs started greatly outpacing inflation year after year after year...................
it outpaced inflation because people were using it as something it wasn't intended for

inefficient things are costly, trying to fit a square into a circle and you put in a lot more time than finding the correct shape for it
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Old 04-21-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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Is a trade really better? In terms of finding a job

So what's more likely to guarantee you a job? Electrician license or IT bachelors Degree
As alluded to in my post #53, I don't know anyone in Power Generation and related fields (e.g., power transmission, distribution, High Voltage Electricians, Instrument Technicians, Load Dispatchers, etc.) who isn't gainfully employed. Again, I currently have guys working under me who were former Stock Brokers and Chemists. Another was an Environmental Engineer. These guys are making more money now as Power Plant Operators than they did in their former professions.

I've been in this field for 32 consecutive years. I've never been without a job during that time. Once in a while I'll float a resume online just to see what happens. It use to be that I'd get phone calls (and later emails) directly from potential employers. Now I get emails from recruiters when I float resumes. Regardless, the point being is that this field has a proven track record of providing continuous work, coupled with a better-than-average income and benefits. This by far outmatches what most lines of work offer employees, especially now a days.

Lastly, the few guys I know in the IT field are mostly contract workers. Once the contract is up, the job's over. I could be wrong but I get the impression that the IT field is oversaturated.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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the people promoting trade school are the same people that raised a generation of children that they steered away from trades and into a college education. Its a little too late to be promoting trade school now. Damage has been done.
A rather absurd POV but, ok.

First, it's never too late to embark in a field that pays well.

Secondly, regardless of whether trades are promoted or not, fact remains that trade jobs are an essential part of society and are not going away anytime soon.

Here's what I've witnessed: When qualified Tradesmen are not found locally, potential employers find them outside of mainland USA. It would be nice to find locally qualified personnel.
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Old 04-21-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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A rather absurd POV but, ok.
Yes, I can understand why you would feel that way. However, from my generation's pov, it is what it is. We have wasted time and money on a worthless education. Sure trade school may help now, but damage has been done. Lots of time and money wasted. This thread is all "relative." If you are older and went to college, chances are it worked out for you and you support the idea. IF you are younger and went to college, chances are it screwed you and you are against the idea of college.
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