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I wanted to attend a university in California when I was young...Didn't work out, and I love where I ended up, it was right for me, but I still remember that dream...
I'd say internationally, it is somewhat less prestigious than Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and Princeton. Probably at the same level as MIT, though MIT is more well-reputed among specialists and slightly less well-known among the public. Berkeley is slightly better-known than Columbia and UChicago.
Other reputable US universities like Duke, Michigan, UCLA, Northwestern, Caltech, Cornell, Johns Hopkins, NYU are much less well-known outside the country. Other UC universities are not especially appreciated, even though UCSD and UCD are pretty good and high on US News rankings. Colleges like Williams or Pomona are, curiously, not that well-known either. Dartmouth is probably the only well-known one, and then because it's an Ivy. I suspect one of the reasons is that 'college' outside the US usually means something inferior to a university.
Obviously, it all depends on the field; I am talking about generalised reputation.
Sorry haters, doesn't matter what you think about Cal, Cal is one of THE best schools in the world, let alone in the U.S. In fact I can't believe anyone would even ask how prestigious Cal is. I mean, seriously?
Cal has world wide brand name recognition, and that Cal name has a LOT of weight academically and on your resume.
Well, not everyone is from the Bay Area. Outside of the Bay Area it doesn't have the same reputation. Like someone from UChicago will talk about how they are a top school, but in the Bay we think of Berkeley as way better. I do agree that it has national and international recognition like MIT, Cornell, etc.
I go there and don't have nearly as much school spirit as you do lol.
I attended both UC Berkeley and UCLA. They are the top two scools in the University of California system.
Didn't care for Berkeley at all, and dropped out. Switched to UCLA the following year and graduated in 4 years. I lived off campus. Never got tired of the neighborhood. UCLA is surrounded on 3 sides by Brentwood, Bel Aire and Beverly Hills, and is about 5 miles from the beach. Southern California weather was way better than the Bay area. Both are top ranked schools, and way cheaper tuition for Californians than any private school. But it depends on the major. For science and math I think Berkeley may have the edge. For Law, business, medicine and the arts I think UCLA may have an edge. For liberal arts I don't think it matters.
I attended both UC Berkeley and UCLA. They are the top two scools in the University of California system.
Didn't care for Berkeley at all, and dropped out. Switched to UCLA the following year and graduated in 4 years. I lived off campus. Never got tired of the neighborhood. UCLA is surrounded on 3 sides by Brentwood, Bel Aire and Beverly Hills, and is about 5 miles from the beach. Southern California weather was way better than the Bay area. Both are top ranked schools, and way cheaper tuition for Californians than any private school. But it depends on the major. For science and math I think Berkeley may have the edge. For Law, business, medicine and the arts I think UCLA may have an edge. For liberal arts I don't think it matters.
Well, for Law you would want to go to UCLA because it's easier to get a good GPA there. Berkeley grade deflation is very real. Probably the hardest elite school to get good grades in (with Princeton and UChicago). But, there isn't inheritantlybany advantage other than that to picking UCLA in for law school. In fact, Berkeley Law had always been ranked higher than UCLA law.
A prestigious school degree can get you in the door, but how you do on the job depends on you.
Once you get the job everyone starts at the bottom again (unless you are somehow hand picked to rise to the top).
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Originally Posted by Jadedfadedisbae
Well, for Law you would want to go to UCLA because it's easier to get a good GPA there. Berkeley grade deflation is very real. Probably the hardest elite school to get good grades in (with Princeton and UChicago). But, there isn't inheritantlybany advantage other than that to picking UCLA in for law school. In fact, Berkeley Law had always been ranked higher than UCLA law.
Well, for Law you would want to go to UCLA because it's easier to get a good GPA there. Berkeley grade deflation is very real. Probably the hardest elite school to get good grades in (with Princeton and UChicago). But, there isn't inheritantlybany advantage other than that to picking UCLA in for law school. In fact, Berkeley Law had always been ranked higher than UCLA law.
Gov Brown said that back in his day (he entered Berkeley in 1960) he and his two sisters could get into the University of California at Berkeley without much worry. So could his nieces and grand-nieces. But things have changed at Berkeley, he said. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...fornians-blame
Gov Brown said that back in his day (he entered Berkeley in 1960) he and his two sisters could get into the University of California at Berkeley without much worry. So could his nieces and grand-nieces. But things have changed at Berkeley, he said. https://www.insidehighered.com/news/...fornians-blame
It's true. Berkeley and Bay Area residents took acceptance to Berkeley for granted, as long as they got good grades and decent SAT scores.
My uncle was graduated from Cal with a Ph.D. in Psychology. He had one interview after graduation which he got a job. That job was being one of the original profs at CSU Stanislaus complete with a pension when he retired, so....
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