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Old 11-19-2017, 08:07 PM
 
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why pick the extreme example, and most states have at least one or two very good public universities so why would anyone in their right mind pay out of state tuition.
Universities target out of state students because the school make more money from those students.

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Old 11-19-2017, 08:18 PM
 
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Universities target out of state students because the school make more money from those student.
ok...but so what?
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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ok...but so what?
This shows universities are more focused on money than education. Why should a state university target out of state students when the emphasis should be on educating students from that universities home state?
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Old 11-19-2017, 08:48 PM
 
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This shows universities are more focused on money than education. Why should a state university target out of state students when the emphasis should be on educating students from that universities home state?
It's logical that they would do that, they want the extra money, but that doesn't sound very machiavellian since the money they get from out of state tuition goes toward subsidizing tuition for in state students.
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Old 11-19-2017, 09:58 PM
 
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.... Meanwhile, the people I've known who worked in private sector and then went to work in government unanimously complain about the sheer inertia they encounter when it comes to getting the simplest things done.
Interestingly I can turn that around 180 degrees too. I've know a number of people who thought exactly the same way. Until they went to work for the government and then every one of them has said "I had no idea" and "I never worked so hard."
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Bay View, Milwaukee
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Looking back on your college education, what percentage of it was a huge waste?
None of it. I enjoy learning for the sake of learning, and colleges are good places to do that at the most thorough and demanding levels. Additionally, I'm resourceful and flexible enough to apply my skills (many of them honed in college and grad school) in a variety of environments: jobs, volunteer opportunities, travel adventures, and so on.

I agree that college is not for everyone, though. Also, not all college students--even some high-aptitude college students at rigorous schools--have the ability to convert their experience (including degrees) into jobs.
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Old 11-20-2017, 07:57 AM
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Yes, of course it's a scam. Look up technological singularity.

At some point, it's likely that debt will be used as a way to deal with the "population problem."
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Old 11-20-2017, 08:15 AM
 
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Rise of the machines? Pretty much not a serious notion at this point.
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Old 11-20-2017, 09:44 AM
 
Location: California
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Yep.

The average debt incurred to finance a bachelor's degree is less than the sticker price for a new midsize SUV. Many of the same people who rant about the scourge of student loan debt have no problem justifying this type of auto purchase.
An automobile however (outside of NYC and Chicago) is necessary to get to your job however to work and make money to eat. If your degree is useless you cant trade it back in for another.

I learned the hard way. My first degree in Biology was *literally useless* even with good grades and internship experience and living in an area with a large pharmeutical sector. I later got another allied health degree (and more debt) and got a job.

That said a good bachelors degree in an employable subject is helpful. Many professional degree holders are the ones with 100k+ in debt, and outside medicine or ivy league law or business many cannot justify the costs.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Greeley, CO
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This argument reveals how little most people know about specialized degree programs.
Most of the critics in this thread have never been to college.
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