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Old 06-14-2018, 01:09 PM
 
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Decimon shared this on another forum, and I thought it was relevant to this sub-forum.

This is a post-industrialized, knowledge economy. Employers no longer want to pay for months or years of training, especially since unions have been weakened, so you need to pay for the training yourself by going to a community/junior college, technical college, or 4-year college. A lot of the complaining that occurred during the 2016 elections came from people who think that we can return to the post WWII economy. If you're too lazy to get post-secondary training, then you're going to be left behind in the current job market. Honestly, if you're really that poor, then you qualify for grants. The Pell Grant is often more than enough to cover community college tuition.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ni...ree-2018-06-04
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Old 06-14-2018, 09:26 PM
 
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Good thing Im getting a degree
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Old 06-16-2018, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Good thing I already have a degree.
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:11 PM
 
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Good thing I already have a degree.
Good thing Im not full of salt
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:20 PM
 
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Is this the same as saying a degree is required for 9 of 10 job openings? What category of employment was that for? I guess that colleges are the best source for a study on how critical college degrees are for success.

Why are the employers shocked when they can't hold on to these college grads who are disappointed in the type of work that their degree unlocked for them?

Reality is that billions of lines of COBOL code run the world's businesses and governments. The biggest businesses and government agencies run on IBM z/OS, which has evolved from the System 360. Now with the new workforce lacking these skills, the employers are resorting to buying third party emulation software which lets these new hires work with something that looks what they learned in college and translates it to what actually needs to get done.
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:36 PM
 
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Is this the same as saying a degree is required for 9 of 10 job openings? What category of employment was that for? I guess that colleges are the best source for a study on how critical college degrees are for success.

Why are the employers shocked when they can't hold on to these college grads who are disappointed in the type of work that their degree unlocked for them?

Reality is that billions of lines of COBOL code run the world's businesses and governments. The biggest businesses and government agencies run on IBM z/OS, which has evolved from the System 360. Now with the new workforce lacking these skills, the employers are resorting to buying third party emulation software which lets these new hires work with something that looks what they learned in college and translates it to what actually needs to get done.
No one codes in COBOL anymore.
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Old 06-17-2018, 04:11 AM
 
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I disagree. Most jobs in America are for people who have limited skills or can learn on the job. For every job that requires a college degree, there is four jobs in fast food and retail.
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Old 06-17-2018, 10:15 AM
 
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No one codes in COBOL anymore.
Depends on the application. Hard to beat COBOL in very high volume record keeping systems processing. Like the largest 401k (or the equivalent financial) plans.
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Old 06-19-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Only ~30% of the population has a degree and most jobs do not use a degree and do not compensate extra for one.

Is it really worth going to college and racking up $25k debt for a job that pays $12 an hour?
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Old 06-19-2018, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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I take issue with the idea that college equates to training. People with degrees who don't have experience will need to be trained. People with degrees who have experience got the job because of their experience, only in the absence of a degree would they not be hired. Employers are simply requiring degrees more so because they can.

I'd also question their ability to count new jobs. No doubt degreed jobs at corporations and gov't agencies will be counted; but non-degreed jobs like landscapers, food workers, farmers, dishwashers, etal. will go into the ether. The same way unreported income goes off into nowhere.
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