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The Southwest Conference hasn't existed for 22 years, but I get your point. Rice is a well-known school and prestigious.
Rice may be a very prestigious school but it is not very well known among most people on the East Coast. It doesn't have the name recognition on the East Coast that schools like the University of Texas or Texas A&M have. Anyone who would research the school would quickly find out its academic reputation and the lack of familiarity beyond the region would not be an issue.
Here is one that caught my attention recently. Amy Barrett, who is one of Trump's finalists, received her undergraduate degree from Rhodes College in Memphis, TN. She then received her law degree from Notre Dame. I had never heard of Rhodes College and found it didn't even go by that name until 1984. Obviously, the fact that Rhodes College is a lesser know college has not been a disadvantage to Amy Barrett. She would also be the only one of the current justices who did not attend either Harvard or Yale law schools.
That depends
I can't even name all the colleges in my town! There are 7. There are 130+ colleges within 40 miles of me right now
But your point stands. Schools are local. For example - when I lived in California, I worked with people who went to SLO, USC, UC Bekerley, Cal Poly Pomona, and Michigan. Now I work in Boston, and I work with people who went to Wentworth, Harvard, RISD, MIT, Northeastern, and Michigan.
Some of those schools travel better than others - I never met anyone who went to Wentworth until I moved here, and I haven't met anyone who went to SLO since I left California.
You live in Central Massachusetts? Of course there were 130+ colleges within 40 miles! Coincidentally, I myself attended a university in central Massachusetts!
New England has an unusually high concentration of colleges and universities. My son currently graduated from one that while not well known outside of the academic and professional world, sends an unusually large amount of students to prestigious PhD programs around the country.
Rice may be a very prestigious school but it is not very well known among most people on the East Coast. It doesn't have the name recognition on the East Coast that schools like the University of Texas or Texas A&M have. Anyone who would research the school would quickly find out its academic reputation and the lack of familiarity beyond the region would not be an issue.
Here is one that caught my attention recently. Amy Barrett, who is one of Trump's finalists, received her undergraduate degree from Rhodes College in Memphis, TN. She then received her law degree from Notre Dame. I had never heard of Rhodes College and found it didn't even go by that name until 1984. Obviously, the fact that Rhodes College is a lesser know college has not been a disadvantage to Amy Barrett. She would also be the only one of the current justices who did not attend either Harvard or Yale law schools.
Many people on the coasts are unaware there is an interior to the country, period.
On a tangential note, as a Notre Dame fan, I've long wished for this athletic conference:
ND
Rice
Vanderbilt
Stanford
Northwestern
The service academies (Air Force, Army, Navy)
Boston College
Wake Forest
I'd call it the "Actual Student-Athletes Conference"
I'm not sure how internet access makes colleges more popular. Granted, it give people the ability to research all schools, do virtual tours, and do comparisons. It doesn't automatically make colleges more popular. I'm familiar with Rice University because they play Division I sports.
Rice University does not sit at the big boy table with Ivies, except obviously in your mind.
My mind and every single ranking list from US News to Princeton Review and from Forbes to Niche. If you give them waiver for location, they'll sit with HYSPM.
I'm not sure how internet access makes colleges more popular. Granted, it give people the ability to research all schools, do virtual tours, and do comparisons. It doesn't automatically make colleges more popular. I'm familiar with Rice University because they play Division I sports.
Rice University does not sit at the big boy table with Ivies, except obviously in your mind.
No, No, No! I have nothing vested in Rice, but I know for a fact that Rice is a top 15 ranking university. It's very strong academically and usually ranks just below or the same as John Hopkins. It's very well known on the east coast and many east coast high school students apply. It has a strong international reputation. Google US News & World Report National University rankings. Rice has a much higher rank that U of Texas.
One should be aware that status of colleges can be fleeting over time. Of course, MIT, Stanford, Ivy League schools will always remain prestigious, but others change. For employment purposes, your Alma mater matters up to a certain point in your career. Later on, no one really cares as much as the prestige of your past employers and your responsibilities.
My father spent one year at New York University. At that time, it was a bottom level school. They pretty much accepted everyone who paid and of course, it wasn't that expensive back then. He jumped at the chance to go to City University of New York when he was accepted as a transfer student, not only because it was free, but it was also much more prestigious back then. How times have changed. Anyone who has a degree from NYU, before 1978 or so, it isn't such a big deal. A degree from NYU received within the past 25 years has much more value.
My mind and every single ranking list from US News to Princeton Review and from Forbes to Niche. If you give them waiver for location, they'll sit with HYSPM.
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No, No, No! I have nothing vested in Rice, but I know for a fact that Rice is a top 15 ranking university. It's very strong academically and usually ranks just below or the same as John Hopkins. It's very well known on the east coast and many east coast high school students apply. It has a strong international reputation. Google US News & World Report National University rankings. Rice has a much higher rank that U of Texas.
When I looked it up I was surprised how high it was ranked. My son applied to many of the top schools but Rice never hit the radar probably because of the location. A quick glance of the ranking actually has Niche giving Rice a #5. US News & World Report has them tied for 14th with Brown and Cornell. Forbes has them #22. The Wall Street Journal/Times Higher Education College Rankings has them #14.
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Which of course, matters little to not at all, unless possibly if one aspires to live/be employed on the East Coast.
Of course we all know where we are going to end up living. Two of my three children are already living in different states.
One should be aware that status of colleges can be fleeting over time. Of course, MIT, Stanford, Ivy League schools will always remain prestigious, but others change. For employment purposes, your Alma mater matters up to a certain point in your career. Later on, no one really cares as much as the prestige of your past employers and your responsibilities.
My father spent one year at New York University. At that time, it was a bottom level school. They pretty much accepted everyone who paid and of course, it wasn't that expensive back then. He jumped at the chance to go to City University of New York when he was accepted as a transfer student, not only because it was free, but it was also much more prestigious back then. How times have changed. Anyone who has a degree from NYU, before 1978 or so, it isn't such a big deal. A degree from NYU received within the past 25 years has much more value.
Meant to say City College of New York. There was no City University of New York system back then.
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My son currently graduated from one that while not well known outside of the academic and professional world, sends an unusually large amount of students to prestigious PhD programs around the country. 
