Washington Monthly's 2009-10 college rankings Cal #1

[Wingfoot]

Originally Posted by ocean2026

NO Artsy be careful about jumping to conclusions. I live in the State of Texas but am critical of UT mostly because of the high number arrests on its football team and the sleazy way Mack Brown tried to pressure sportswriters in AP voting a few years ago. UT is one of the better southern state universities and it has loads of money, but that's as far as I would go. I did do a Visiting Professorship at a UT Branch that had criminology in 1992 ( Austin didn't).

That statement could appley to any D1 football school in the country including the Ivies and service academies.

[iskray917]

Nice Udub at #14.

[artsyguy]

Was that UTDallas?

Originally Posted by ocean2026

I did do a Visiting Professorship at a UT Branch that had criminology in 1992 ( Austin didn't).

[ocean2026]

Permian Basin- the college that looked like a prison. They gave me a good deal- let me develop courses and still practice law, but the city is isolated and bleak.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by 540_804

I don't think I would necessarily say that. Different, yes; 'way better', not necessarily.

For example, this study measures, " Social Mobility (recruiting and graduating low-income students), Research (producing cutting-edge scholarship and PhDs), and Service (encouraging students to give something back to their country)."....

Why those areas are important, they say little about the quality or rigor of the academic setting. For instance, to increase ones rating, the school could simply start admitting more low-income students and make the coursework less rigorous. That immediately bumps up it "Social Mobility Rating"...and overall rating.

I guess the point I'm getting at is that all these studies are just games that school administrations can play...they can easily manipulate the numbers to bump up in the spots while offering no real improvement in the academic arena (or worse).

Yet Penn State is #7 with this abysmal record:

Originally Posted by Katiana

I am not big on the USN list, and I disagree with some of its choices. I like your list better, K-Luv. I still don't understand how Penn State seems to make both lists.

Left of Centre: Nobel Laureate Inks Marketing Deal with Penn State

No one has ever won a Nobel Prize while serving on the Penn State faculty. No one who has served on the Penn State faculty has won a Nobel Prize after leaving Penn State. Penn State has never hired a faculty member with a Nobel Prize. No one with an advanced degree from Penn State has ever won a Nobel Prize.

[minibrings]

Originally Posted by flyers29

SC State is #6?? Jackson State better than Yale?? You gotta be kidding me.

Ive never heard of SC State... any survey that has an unknown school as #6 is suspect, the publisher of that rag must have some pretty large cojones or he's an SC State Alumni!