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Old 09-23-2009, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Okay thanks for clearing it up. My colleges were not liberal learning although it sounds like a very good idea.

And why are people bashing liberal learning?
Because they want to believe anything other than earning money is childish nonsense. Because earning money is all they're good at.
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Okay thanks for clearing it up. My colleges were not liberal learning although it sounds like a very good idea.

And why are people bashing liberal learning?
Because many of us aren't liberal. Liberal professors outnumber conservative and moderate professors by 7 to 3, and many of the conservative professors don't express their opinions out of fear of repercussions and being shunned by the rest of the department.

With a lot of these liberal professors, grades are attached to agreeing with their far left ideology. I don't agree with their ideology, and my grades have suffered in several courses as a result. I am paying money for an education, not liberal brainwashing. In one class, we were given a topic for a paper on abortion and were only allowed to write on how the pro choice side is legitimate, and how the pro life side is a bunch of morons. I do not agree with that, and my paper reflected that. I got a D. Someone who wrote about how all pro life people should be deported, but had numerous spelling and grammatical errors got an A.

I wouldn't mind hearing their views, but I resent having my grades depending on agreeing with their political views.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:29 PM
 
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In my experiences my professors were nonpartisan; however, they were always pushing a singular ideology that they thought was supreme and it could not be questioned or criticized. I'm not talking about math or chemistry formulas either.

Thankfully after years of suffering through biased classes I found a college that allows respectful opposition and my professors are very nice about it too. They don't act like a ticked off toddler when you question or point out a different view.

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Because many of us aren't liberal. Liberal professors outnumber conservative and moderate professors by 7 to 3, and many of the conservative professors don't express their opinions out of fear of repercussions and being shunned by the rest of the department.

With a lot of these liberal professors, grades are attached to agreeing with their far left ideology. I don't agree with their ideology, and my grades have suffered in several courses as a result. I am paying money for an education, not liberal brainwashing. In one class, we were given a topic for a paper on abortion and were only allowed to write on how the pro choice side is legitimate, and how the pro life side is a bunch of morons. I do not agree with that, and my paper reflected that. I got a D. Someone who wrote about how all pro life people should be deported, but had numerous spelling and grammatical errors got an A.

I wouldn't mind hearing their views, but I resent having my grades depending on agreeing with their political views.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:38 PM
 
Location: halifax
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homosexuality, macroevolution, abortion, giving people a twisted understanding of what it means to be 'progressive', brainwashing people by taking sides on issues that are unresolved, unproved, and making people think their position is a fact.
progressive is usually taught as a description of someone who thinks all religions are equal, God 'might' exist, homosexuality, pride, can be a good thing, global warming is happening the way they say it is, of course that's after they instill in people the idea that people who aren't progressive are dangerous, uneducated fools.

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Old 09-23-2009, 12:49 PM
 
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I never experienced that once in a college and I'm a liberal. I saw a lot more "brainwashing" in regards to conservatism (keep things old fashioned). Colleges and institutions of education always seem old fashioned to me. The antithesis to progression.

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homosexuality, macroevolution, abortion, giving people a twisted understanding of what it means to be 'progressive', brainwashing people by taking sides on issues that are unresolved, unproved, and making people think their position is a fact.
progressive is usually taught as a description of someone who thinks all religions are equal, God 'might' exist, homosexuality, pride, can be a good thing, global warming is happening the way they say it is, of course that's after they instill in people the idea that people who aren't progressive are dangerous, uneducated fools.
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Old 09-23-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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My American Politics Prof. was obviously a liberal but was very good about playing devils advocate with the class. My American History I prof. on the other hand was not shy about her liberal ideas. She told us our Founding Fathers were essentially "rednecks with money". HA! What a fruit.
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Old 09-23-2009, 01:57 PM
 
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They were and that is why slavery was condoned and practiced in those days. Let's not forget that.

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She told us our Founding Fathers were essentially "rednecks with money". HA! What a fruit.
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Old 09-23-2009, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Because many of us aren't liberal. Liberal professors outnumber conservative and moderate professors by 7 to 3, and many of the conservative professors don't express their opinions out of fear of repercussions and being shunned by the rest of the department.

With a lot of these liberal professors, grades are attached to agreeing with their far left ideology. I don't agree with their ideology, and my grades have suffered in several courses as a result. I am paying money for an education, not liberal brainwashing. In one class, we were given a topic for a paper on abortion and were only allowed to write on how the pro choice side is legitimate, and how the pro life side is a bunch of morons. I do not agree with that, and my paper reflected that. I got a D. Someone who wrote about how all pro life people should be deported, but had numerous spelling and grammatical errors got an A.

I wouldn't mind hearing their views, but I resent having my grades depending on agreeing with their political views.
Sweetie, the question was why do people bash liberal learning, not liberal ideology.
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Old 09-23-2009, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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They were and that is why slavery was condoned and practiced in those days. Let's not forget that.
Give me a break, Like that undoes all the good they did. Nice way to talk about our Founding Fathers.
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Old 09-23-2009, 02:40 PM
 
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They were and that is why slavery was condoned and practiced in those days. Let's not forget that.
Sure could write and think well for being rednecks...
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