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that clearly fits the kind of connection i was suggesting in the first place.
No, it doesn't. (Although I admit it seems a bit arrogant of me to point out how you're misinterpreting your own post.)
Your post cited the fact that large numbers of Chicago kids attend the U of Iowa. That's not true for OU and Dallas.
On the flip side, I would assert that relatively few Hawkeye alumni go on to become titans of industry in Chicagoland. If you grabbed 100 bigwigs off Michigan Ave., I would guess Northwestern and UIUC would have the highest representation, followed by hired-gun Ivy Leaguers. You might even have more Badgers than Hawkeyes.
Meanwhile, in Dallas, although UT would be #1 and A & M #2, OU would be a strong #3, right up there with SMU. (A lot of Longhorns and Aggies go to Houston, San Antonio, or any of a dozen mid-sized Texas cities. For OU, Dallas is the closest big city if you decide to leave OKC (and most do). )
Maybe Iowa is just getting the residual effects of how the universities in Illinois are seen in the state.
I think this is probably as likely as anything. I grew up in Illinois and never seriously considered attending a state school in Illinois. I didn't go to Iowa, though, I went to Minnesota (not U of M, however).
I went to HS in the Chicago suburbs. To me, it always seemed that students who couldn't get into University of Illinois but still wanted the big 10 atmosphere went to University of Iowa. Not sure there's a big gap in admissions standards between Illinois State and U of Iowa--last I remember, Iowa used an equation based on GPA and ACT score to determine admissions, and it was not terribly difficult.
Auburn has a HUGE amount of atlanta kids that attend. I was quite amazed when I discovered that
I'm not surprised. Atlanta is a center for the SEC (and the ACC, to a lesser extent) in the same manner that Chicago is a center for the Big Ten schools.
I went to HS in the Chicago suburbs. To me, it always seemed that students who couldn't get into University of Illinois but still wanted the big 10 atmosphere went to University of Iowa. Not sure there's a big gap in admissions standards between Illinois State and U of Iowa--last I remember, Iowa used an equation based on GPA and ACT score to determine admissions, and it was not terribly difficult.
I don't think that Iowa is necessarily that much more difficult to get into compared to Illinois State, but the difference in academic reputation is fairly significant. Iowa is #71 in the latest US News Rankings, while Illinois State is in the 3rd tier. That's what I meant by saying that the "upper middle tier" Illinois high school graduates aren't really being served by the state public universities. After the University of Illinois (ranked #39), there isn't another Illinois public school in the top 135 of the US News Rankings, while states such as Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Iowa all have multiple public universities in the top 100 despite having smaller populations. I know that the US News Rankings aren't the be-all end-all, but they are a still pretty good picture as to where schools are thought of in terms of national reputation.
I don't think that Iowa is necessarily that much more difficult to get into compared to Illinois State, but the difference in academic reputation is fairly significant. Iowa is #71 in the latest US News Rankings, while Illinois State is in the 3rd tier. That's what I meant by saying that the "upper middle tier" Illinois high school graduates aren't really being served by the state public universities. After the University of Illinois (ranked #39), there isn't another Illinois public school in the top 135 of the US News Rankings, while states such as Michigan, Ohio, Indiana and Iowa all have multiple public universities in the top 100 despite having smaller populations. I know that the US News Rankings aren't the be-all end-all, but they are a still pretty good picture as to where schools are thought of in terms of national reputation.
Frank,
Is Purdue within that group of "desirable alternative" schools (such as Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, etc.) for Illinois high school graduates who cannot secure a place at Illinois?
Is Purdue within that group of "desirable alternative" schools (such as Wisconsin, Indiana, Iowa, etc.) for Illinois high school graduates who cannot secure a place at Illinois?
Absolutely, especially if you want to study engineering (where Purdue is very strong).
I went to Iowa and had several roomates from Chicagoland. Their primary motivating factor was the party atmosphere in downtown Iowa City. Had nothing to do with academics. Also it was a way to get away from their hometowns but not go too far away.
I also wonder though if the cost of Iowa's out of state tuition is on par with an an in-state Illinois school. Might also have something to do with it.
Lots of Californians at the University of Colorado. There is no reciprocity agreement, and out of state residents pay cost plus (to make up for the discount given in-state students).
This fall, university officials estimate that 644 freshmen at CU-Boulder are from California -- making up 9 percent of the freshman class. Behind California as top feeder states are Illinois and Texas.
Well I think part of that has to do with Boulder being seen as a "hippie school" and/or somewhere that will allow you to go skiing every weekend. I think the term I'm looking for is "trustifarian."
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