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Old 01-08-2010, 03:47 PM
 
Location: NYC
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More people are going to college. So a degree has less value. In the end though, anyone with drive can become rich in this country. With or without a college degree.
Also don't forget that it's pretty damn easy to lie on most job applications since confirmation of a degree is rarely verified. In addition to all the ppl with actual college degrees, you'll also have those with fake 4 year degrees on their resumes. So yes the average BA in say liberal arts is probably worth less than the average high school diploma decades ago.
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Old 01-08-2010, 10:37 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Also don't forget that it's pretty damn easy to lie on most job applications since confirmation of a degree is rarely verified. In addition to all the ppl with actual college degrees, you'll also have those with fake 4 year degrees on their resumes. So yes the average BA in say liberal arts is probably worth less than the average high school diploma decades ago.
Really now. Where, may I ask, do you get your information from? Have you tried it? I haven't, but I have worked in corporations and I've had the inside view of what recruiters do these days with candidates they screen - you'd be surprised at what dirt they can easily and quickly find on people in the cyber world we now live in. Serious companies have policies that obligate them to run background screens on every employee they hire, and they use outsourced services to handle this. And it is very easy to confirm a person's claimed degree from an educational institution. If you submit your resume with fake qualifications to a reputable company, chances that you'll be caught are actually quite good - probably higher than they've ever been. Do this at your own peril.
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Old 01-09-2010, 04:46 AM
 
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To what extent do you think this is true?

Also, if the Bachelor's degree is the new high school diploma, the bigger question is: Was the old high school diploma really so bad? Wasn't there a time when it was easier to get by with just a high school diploma?
hey,I am a chinese. I have got a Bachelor's degree 4 years ago.then I become a high school teacher,two years later,I am a post-graduate .my English still very poor . In chinese,with a bachelor's degree means nothing .you maybe Unemployment also .
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:32 AM
 
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People keeping their college degree off their resume because they think it will hurt them? What's the world coming to?
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Old 01-09-2010, 10:43 AM
 
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People keeping their college degree off their resume because they think it will hurt them? What's the world coming to?
It's the employers.

"You live too far".

"You are overqualified".

"You are underqualified".

"You cost too much".

"You this, You that".

I'm sure there's more, and in essence with many of them is that they want "cheap labor" in a matter of speaking while loading up on responsibilities and qualifications for an opening.
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Old 01-09-2010, 05:27 PM
 
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People keeping their college degree off their resume because they think it will hurt them? What's the world coming to?
Exactly what I am thinking. I busted my behind to get my accounting degree, and I sure am not going to eliminate it from my resume even if it would hurt me. I am proud of my undergraduate and graduate degree even if it never furthers my employment opportunities. Employers are looking for more than just a degree anyhow. They want someone who has excellent communication skills, ambition, and drive. A degree is only going to get your foot in the door.
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Old 01-12-2010, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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If the Bachelor's degree is the new high school diploma, was the old high school diploma really so bad?
No, they've just dumbed down college. In many cases the kids with bachelors today are not better off educationally than those with high school diplomas 50 years ago.
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The answers so far have been insightful but no one has answered my other question yet. If the Bachelor's degree is the new high school diploma, was the old high school diploma really so bad?
The old high school diploma used to come with job experience. I'd rather hire a 24 year old with a high school diploma and job experience than a liberal arts college graduate with no job experience.
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Old 01-13-2010, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Also don't forget that it's pretty damn easy to lie on most job applications since confirmation of a degree is rarely verified.
Really? My degree was part of my personnel file, along with my transcript.
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Old 01-13-2010, 03:17 PM
 
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Its been mentioned before in this thread ( and in the similar threads on this forum in the past) but I'll say it again...

How can a Bachelor's Degree be the new high school diploma when only 29% of the population holds a Bachelor's????

Despite peoples' assertions that "everyone" has a degree these day, the facts don't bear that out....
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