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Old 03-07-2010, 04:58 AM
 
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Like I said, it's also important to realize that the oppressed can easily become the oppressors. Racism is multi-directional. I could give you my own personal anecdotes (being attacked by Hispanic and black students by virtue of being Asian American, being threatened with death at gunpoint by a Hispanic person), but I'll give you these links instead:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ho...ila__High.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/20091204_Asian_students_under_attack_at_S__Phila__ High.html - broken link)

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...-79162377.html

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/a...th_Philly.html

Funny how this never hit CNN? Ask yourself, if these students were black, would it make the headlines? Absolutely.

Both the principal (who stepped down recently) and the superintendent (both black) refuse the acknowledge the gravity and racial dimension of the attack.

There is a clear double standard, don't you think?

URM are victims, but so are ORM and white students. The world is never as simple as we'd like to believe it is.
Funny how none of this made national headlines while a minor incident like the "Compton Cookout" at UCSD did.
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Old 03-07-2010, 01:09 PM
 
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Funny how none of this made national headlines while a minor incident like the "Compton Cookout" at UCSD did.
It's not funny. It's expected. You can do anything against whites and Asians, but you can't do anything against blacks, Hispanics, or Native Americans. You know that Asians have never had to face adversity right?
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:08 PM
 
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Like I said, it's also important to realize that the oppressed can easily become the oppressors. Racism is multi-directional. I could give you my own personal anecdotes (being attacked by Hispanic and black students by virtue of being Asian American, being threatened with death at gunpoint by a Hispanic person), but I'll give you these links instead:

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/ho...ila__High.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/20091204_Asian_students_under_attack_at_S__Phila__ High.html - broken link)

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...-79162377.html

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/a...th_Philly.html

Funny how this never hit CNN? Ask yourself, if these students were black, would it make the headlines? Absolutely.

Both the principal (who stepped down recently) and the superintendent (both black) refuse the acknowledge the gravity and racial dimension of the attack.

There is a clear double standard, don't you think?

URM are victims, but so are ORM and white students. The world is never as simple as we'd like to believe it is.
Not that it is a big deal but, the post is regarding California not Pa and especially not Philly which has a constant history of racism. Coming from the other side of the state I'm very aware of east coast racism. If you lived in California it may not have be so bad considering the abundance of like minded Asians
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Old 03-08-2010, 05:23 PM
 
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Not that it is a big deal but, the post is regarding California not Pa and especially not Philly which has a constant history of racism. Coming from the other side of the state I'm very aware of east coast racism. If you lived in California it may not have be so bad considering the abundance of like minded Asians
Oh, there are plenty of racial attacks in California. Most of the ones on school campuses, though, tend to be blacks against Hispanics.
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Old 03-09-2010, 06:31 PM
 
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Oh, there are plenty of racial attacks in California. Most of the ones on school campuses, though, tend to be blacks against Hispanics.
I noticed that geographical racism is very common in this country. I as a blackman can catch hell in pockets of the east coast (boston, new york, philly) and parts of the south (many small towns). As I drive west the racism shifts to Native Americans and mexicans. Southwest certain groups of asians are having probelms. Now I was not aware of the issues in Ca, since they tend to have quite a few different minorities who are (seemily) doing well.
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:58 PM
 
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I noticed that geographical racism is very common in this country. I as a blackman can catch hell in pockets of the east coast (boston, new york, philly) and parts of the south (many small towns). As I drive west the racism shifts to Native Americans and mexicans. Southwest certain groups of asians are having probelms. Now I was not aware of the issues in Ca, since they tend to have quite a few different minorities who are (seemily) doing well.
Many of the race issues in California schools are very localized, though. It's partially gang and partially race in most cases. My ex-roommate from college had an almost riot at her high school between blacks and Hispanics one day. The next day SWAT was on campus to make sure nothing happened that day. From what she said it was pretty bad. However, these usually don't make the news. Now, if the near riot had been between whites and blacks it would have been all over the news. We all know who would have been blamed.

After the Rodney King trial there were obviously the riots. Whites were dragged from cars and beaten, but that didn't make the news. One guy was almost killed. I believe there was a brick involved.

We didn't really have these issues where I went to school. Most groups included whites, Hispanics, and Asians. My city didn't have many blacks, so most groups didn't have any.

Yes, we have had some problems. In the city I grew up in, the Vietnamese I believe had to sue many many years ago in order to get into the district schools. Well, that's what my dad said.
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Old 03-10-2010, 01:11 AM
 
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Admissions should be based on straight academics, where would we be as a country if anyone could become president? Affirmative action is preposterous, I am an Asian male that graduated from UC Irvine, I got accepted there because I worked hard. It isn’t fair that someone who earns a whole grade point lower than I did gets accepted just because they are black, white, brown, purple, yellow or red. It should be based solely on academics and extracurricular/community activities. You don’t see the IOC handing out gold medals to countries just because they want it to be evenly distributed do you? Gold medalists earn their gold medals because of their countless hours practice and dedication.
Only if such an America existed.
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Old 03-10-2010, 05:44 PM
 
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I guess you don't know that we don't care if AA works both ways. We do not want to get something merely because of the color of our skin.

It is not as simply as that (at least it should not be) it should be based on economic factors as well as geographical as well. Many people claiming that AA should go don't realize that it would not apply to the rich. A simple "donation" and their kid is "in". Like I mentioned before Buddy Bush got into a Ivory League school with a "C" average......where was the up roar about that?
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:08 PM
 
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It is not as simply as that (at least it should not be) it should be based on economic factors as well as geographical as well. Many people claiming that AA should go don't realize that it would not apply to the rich. A simple "donation" and their kid is "in". Like I mentioned before Buddy Bush got into a Ivory League school with a "C" average......where was the up roar about that?
There is no uproar because he didn't get in because of his race. He got in because of his family and money. Sure, if he weren't white he wouldn't have had legacy. However, it also isn't a government policy.
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Old 03-10-2010, 06:36 PM
 
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There is no uproar because he didn't get in because of his race. He got in because of his family and money. Sure, if he weren't white he wouldn't have had legacy. However, it also isn't a government policy.
It is still AA, and until racism is offically ended in this country there should be AA. What is never mentioned is that AA is not needed everywhere but in some places it is. A study on hiring/admission practices should be done in order to rectify many of the obvious disparities
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