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Old 12-09-2013, 08:52 PM
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I agree - if you can go to a traditional land-based 4-year institution over a tech school or for-profit school, I would recommend it. I think it would increase your job prospects. I know in the Springs it can hard to find your desired programs, though, but a commute to CSU Pueblo or something wouldn't be bad.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:02 PM
Location: Ankeny Iowa
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Saylor - You have an opportunity to get a terrific education and not be saddled with any (or much) debt when you graduate. In this day and age, that's a tremendous plus and can give you the basis for a very fulfilling career. So, don't blow it.

I used to hire engineers, and many of our applicants came to us with degrees from glorified trade schools with degrees that weren't worth what the grads thought they were. A degree in engineering technology, for instance, is not the same as a degree in engineering. We'd still hire them, but not as engineers, only as engineering techs, for far less money and promotional opportunity. These folks spent four years in programs that could have led to them being hired as full fledged engineers, but they weren't. When we informed them, they were shocked, as they'd been led to believe from their college that they'd be fully employable as engineers.

As for accreditation, I'm no longer up on what the primary accreditation bodies are, but you should check to see if ECPI and CTU and their ilk are fully accredited by the same bodies as the established traditional universities and their courses are transferable for credit (for both undergraduate and graduate degree programs) at those same traditional colleges and universities.

With four years of educational benefits coming your way, I'd recommend looking for traditional colleges and universities with BS degree programs in engineering (not engineering technology), computer science (not computer technology), etc. Make sure any degree program you're in will transfer with full credit to full graduate degree level work at a traditional university.

I'd also suggest looking for highly rated science and engineering programs at public universities. Your benefits will go a lot further. Rule of thumb: If you're looking for a professional IT career, stay away from degree programs with "technology" in their name, unless, of course, you're looking at trade schools. Nothing wrong with trade schools, as long as you're not expecting more for your money than what they're offering.

You might also check Ripoff Report (not sure of the exact link; but if you google ECPI and scroll down beyond the PR stuff, you'll find it and there'll be a couple of customer reviews (very negative) that I think will prove valuable to you before you sign on the dotted line).

There are many for-profit colleges out there. Some are legit; many are not, and even the legit ones will suck you for every penny they can and leave you with a degree that prospective employers will often dismiss.

Finally, if you choose one of the for-profit schools, make them provide you with their employment of graduate stats and the starting salaries those graduates received. I've heard some incredible horror stores about the employment rate of some of these schools' graduates.

So, bottom line, choose very carefully.

A lot of my comments here are based on years of experience hiring engineers and other technical professionals. If I see two resumes for a given position and all other things being equal, and one has a BS degree in computer science or engineering from say, the University of Michigan and the other has a BS in some IT program from ECPI or CTU, which one do you think I'd be inclined to hire? Which one would you hire?

Thank you for all this information, I have looked into some for-profit schools and all I read are negative reviews about all of them. So I am staying away from them. I want to foucs on school but also I want to get back to working because I want to buy a house. I have been looking down at Texas for schools as well and they seem to be pretty good but I cant stand all that heat they have in the summer time. I'm going to keep looking at colleges but the only community college in Colorado Springs is Pikes Peak. So this is a hard choice to make. I already know I don't want to move back to Iowa, so it comes down between Colorado Springs and Texas areas.
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Old 12-23-2013, 02:43 PM
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I live in colorado springs and I also went to engineering school and have an engineering degree in manufacturing engineering. I went to Cal Poly, SLO, 4 yr school and it was inexpensive when I went. My brother has a degree from U of Minnesota and works in Denver for Exel Energy as a sr. project manager (he is only 30 yrs old). UCCS is an ok school. It is very small for engineering, but it seems like the grads I work with at work are ok.

Make sure you go to an ABET accredited college.

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Old 12-26-2013, 02:23 PM
Location: Ankeny Iowa
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Alright well im going to keep looking at different schools and keep researching all the different programs out there as well. Thanks for all the help everyone
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