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Old 01-02-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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... I am a single parent of a set of twins (a teen young lady & a young man of 15 yrs old).I am a retired educator and want to move to Colorado Springs. At this time I do not have a car and would need access to public transportation. Can anyone share some insight to the town & schools and if this is a good move with teen children....
As a retired educator, I would suggest you do some serious research as to which locales would be best for your kids and their immediate future. (I don't think you will find Colorado to be on top of EDU at the moment, tho it excelled many yrs ago) Funding of CO schools is in crisis (as with several states).

If you are looking to save costs AND educate your kids... consider an INCOME TAX FREE state. Since you have tried FL... and NH is way expensive / lack of public transit... Look to nearby TN, or TX or WA. All have excellent and affordable college towns and perks for school funding.


TN, I prefer Tri Cities (NE) tho Chattanooga is pretty excellent if you can stand humidity.
TX, I would focus on Austin / San Marcos / San Antonio

WA, Consider Spokane or Walla Walla (the lower cost of living areas of WA). 15 yr olds can go to college (For Free) instead of High school !!! https://www.k12.wa.us/SecondaryEduca...ningStart.aspx Saves them money and TIME and is a great experience for tens of thousands of WA students for 20+ yrs.

What was your education career in? Do you seek employment, or access to the 'arts' or sciences in your retirement? I live in VERY inexpensive Vancouver, WA (SW WA) and have 20 minute access to 25+ colleges in the Portland Metro region. Public transit is EZ between WA and OR. (If you pick the correct area to live). Don't let the car thing force you into the wrong place to live. I drive a $35 car that is 37 yrs old, gets 50 mpg and is quite dependable and very utility focused.

SW WA Rents are $800, I feed the family and entertain on $100/ month, utilities are under $100. Nice community college, WSU-V, as well as High Schools. Income Tax Free living / working in WA and Sales Tax Free shopping in OR (5 minutes away). BTW... OR is terrible for school funding + high income tax (9%, including pensions and SS)

I did my first 28 yrs in Colorado, but it has changed considerably and is now one of those many places that is better to visit than to live. (YMMV). For COLO I would ONLY consider Colorado Springs, (I think Denver will be too big and expensive for you) but CoSpr will be a challenge without a car. (and can be pretty cold too (and windy, and dry). But it is close to recreation and the mtns (if you have a car).
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Old 01-02-2014, 09:56 PM
 
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StealthRabbit the information you shared is great and turned me around to not settle to stay in NY, NJ. I originally thought of going to San Antonio Texas after I read it was a tax free state. Then as I kept researching it, the crime rate has increased and that worried me a bit. So I stopped researching and turned elsewhere. I would like to work part-time to supplement my pension and if it is in education that is good. I am a retired educational diagnostician from NYC dept of education( worked for 20 yrs). I also worked for Early intervention for over 10 yrs as a consultant. I particularly liked reading the expenses you stated in your posting of family entertainment and the college attendance for my twins that would be great. My daughter wants to be a dentist and my son wants to be a body language specialist. The college attendance at an early age is very interesting and such a good idea.
I will research the areas you mentioned and see which is best.
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Old 01-02-2014, 10:23 PM
 
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StealthRabbit the car you drive is interesting and I would love to find one in the same condition have any suggestions how I can find one like that? By the way are there lofts in WA? Always wanted to live in one but by the time I was able to afford one they became popular and the costs went through the roof ( in Manhattan ).
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Old 01-07-2014, 09:20 AM
 
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Living low COL makes far more sense, given that you are retired. You're currently living in one of the very expensive parts of the country. COS doesn't have bus service, and doesn't want it, so we won't be getting it anytime soon. If you can't afford a car, you may want to reconsider being "Retired". If you really don't want to drive, you'll want to live in an area with available mass transit. Portland offers that, and the placement right on the Washington side allows many people to enjoy the lack of income tax while screwing their own state by shopping in Oregon. No offense stealthrabbit, I understand the incentives, I'm just stating the economic realities of the problem imposed by allowing people in Washington to benefit from the tax dollars while opting out of paying them.

Yes, San Antonio may have more crime now than it did before, but that should still be a very reasonable level compared to living in NY/NJ. If you don't mind rain, I would consider Seattle (more expensive, but great schools) and Vancouver, WA. The income tax thing can get overblown, especially when some states don't tax retirement benefits.

If you prefer heat to rain, look at Texas.

Your COL will drop as soon as you get off the east coast, though the East Coast does have the most developed infrastructure of public transportation for living without a car. In many other areas, people simply would not consider that to be a viable option.

I lived in Portland for a while. I found it was cheaper to have a car there and pay 90 bucks a month for parking (yay downtown Portland sucks) and pay for the insurance and gas to drive my car, so I could go to a grocery store 10 to 15 miles away each week or two. The cost of buying my groceries within Portland added well over a hundred bucks a month to the grocery bill for a family of TWO. It was complete robbery. So, consider how you will handle getting groceries, unless you have enough money to just eat at restaurants every night. (Now there's a way to get fat.)

PS. After the housing market collapse, PHX has become much more affordable. They have decent public transit, so if you like a dry heat, you may also want to consider that. I don't think ABQ has the public transit you're looking for, and the crime would probably concern you, though it is otherwise a very nice city with excellent weather. Denver is the only part of Colorado that provides transportation for those without cars, and the cost of housing there is significantly higher.

PPS. If you plan to buy a car upon moving to CO, COS would work
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Old 01-07-2014, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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OP, just wondering why you are thinking of making a move to Colorado at this point in your life. Your kids just have a year or two of high school left, so why uproot them (again) to a place that you apparently have never been. Especially since it seems that you are on a limited budget.

My suggestion is that you stay put until your twins are graduated from high school. Then you can have time to travel around and maybe even check out CS or other areas of Colorado before making a move.
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Old 01-10-2014, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Des Moines
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As a retired educator, I would suggest you do some serious research as to which locales would be best for your kids and their immediate future. (I don't think you will find Colorado to be on top of EDU at the moment, tho it excelled many yrs ago) Funding of CO schools is in crisis (as with several states).

If you are looking to save costs AND educate your kids... consider an INCOME TAX FREE state. Since you have tried FL... and NH is way expensive / lack of public transit... Look to nearby TN, or TX or WA. All have excellent and affordable college towns and perks for school funding.


TN, I prefer Tri Cities (NE) tho Chattanooga is pretty excellent if you can stand humidity.
TX, I would focus on Austin / San Marcos / San Antonio

WA, Consider Spokane or Walla Walla (the lower cost of living areas of WA). 15 yr olds can go to college (For Free) instead of High school !!! https://www.k12.wa.us/SecondaryEduca...ningStart.aspx Saves them money and TIME and is a great experience for tens of thousands of WA students for 20+ yrs.

What was your education career in? Do you seek employment, or access to the 'arts' or sciences in your retirement? I live in VERY inexpensive Vancouver, WA (SW WA) and have 20 minute access to 25+ colleges in the Portland Metro region. Public transit is EZ between WA and OR. (If you pick the correct area to live). Don't let the car thing force you into the wrong place to live. I drive a $35 car that is 37 yrs old, gets 50 mpg and is quite dependable and very utility focused.

SW WA Rents are $800, I feed the family and entertain on $100/ month, utilities are under $100. Nice community college, WSU-V, as well as High Schools. Income Tax Free living / working in WA and Sales Tax Free shopping in OR (5 minutes away). BTW... OR is terrible for school funding + high income tax (9%, including pensions and SS)

I did my first 28 yrs in Colorado, but it has changed considerably and is now one of those many places that is better to visit than to live. (YMMV). For COLO I would ONLY consider Colorado Springs, (I think Denver will be too big and expensive for you) but CoSpr will be a challenge without a car. (and can be pretty cold too (and windy, and dry). But it is close to recreation and the mtns (if you have a car).


How in the world do you feed your family and entertain on just $100/mo? That's crazy!

Also, I'm a native Texan and I don't recommend SA. Austin, yes, but not SA. Crime is crazy and it's pretty expensive compared to some parts of Austin area. San Marcos is a college/party town. The area does have some great natural aspects, though.

OP, here is a site I found that you might find interesting on WA. Look how many times WA is on this short list. Could be a great option after hearing StealthRabbit's input. America's Safest, Most Secure Places To Live - Forbes

Hope this helps!
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Old 01-10-2014, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Des Moines
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@StealthRabbit- How can kids attend college for free?
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:09 PM
 
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It's a state program. I believe the idea was that since the state is paying to provide high school courses, if the kids would rather be included in a college course, they would still be taking up the same amount of resources and get a better education. Stealth may have more information about it.
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:07 PM
 
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Kids can take college courses in high school in Colorado. The school at work at has probably 20 college courses on campus taught by high school staff who qualify as adjunct faculty, and additionally there are numerous programs where upperclassmen can go to PPCC and UCCS for part of the day and take courses there. There are also schools like the Early College program on the Wasson campus at which students graduate high school with an Associates Degree. There is usually little to no charge for these programs - sometimes free, sometimes around $50 per credit as opposed to the $500 per credit it is more likely to run after they graduate.
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Old 01-11-2014, 01:19 PM
 
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Thank you Lurtsman for your information.originally I thought of Texas but reconsidered it and may think of washington.I am also looking for a state whose soccer teams are known and recruit for college or a profession.
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