10-07-2014, 03:27 PM
Location: Manitou Springs
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Why, when people disagree with someone who boosts a town, it's 'sand in your shorts' but when they disagree with someone who disparages a town, that's heroic? Mike is sort of a booster, he admits it, and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's also nothing wrong with saying 'someplace sucks' as long as you do it in a decent way for some actual reasons.
I personally love CO as a whole. I'm less fond of COS than I am of Denver and most of the high country and western slope blows either city away, IMO, but I can see why people love it there. I also chose the greater area (between springs and denver) to live and I love it here. But I understand why some don't like it here at all and that doesn't offend me. If I went into the NoVa or LA forums and starting saying how I felt I'd be virtually lynched. I don't really do that, but if I did it wouldn't necessarily be trolling, hating, etc. it would just be me vs the majority.
My original advice to the OP from FA stands.
I think it may have been the condescending tone - to me it didn't come off "in a decent way".
10-07-2014, 09:33 PM
Location: Downtown Co Sps
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Why, when people disagree with someone who boosts a town, it's 'sand in your shorts' but when they disagree with someone who disparages a town, that's heroic? Mike is sort of a booster, he admits it, and there's nothing wrong with that. But there's also nothing wrong with saying 'someplace sucks' as long as you do it in a decent way for some actual reasons.
I said it because it was a baseless claim, imo. Saying Mike is pro Colorado Springs is one thing. Saying he's being told what to say by the city, a statement that didn't seem to be made in jest, is just plain silly and shows you don't know Mike that well at all. Everyone knows this city leans right. And I don't want to put a label on Mike, but it's certainly not in line with our elected officials.
01-13-2015, 10:02 AM
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Hi,
I also currently live in Florida and was just offered a promotion in the COS/Denver area. I have never been to Colorado. I concerned about he extremely cold weather, at the same time looking forward to the cool summers. I am intrigued by the opportunity, however I want to ensure that I make the right decision on where to live. I need to select an area that have a diverse high school. I have a son who will be entering high school. I will be working on Schriever AFB and see myself being there for at least 4 years. I would like easy access to grocery store, etc. however do not want to live in an congested area. I currently commute 35-40 mins to work. The commute is mostly rural area, no traffic at all. I don't mind paying more for rent to acquire the more desirable area. I've noticed that the area seems a bit more expense than where I currently live. Rent here is about $1200.00 a month and that is a condo, gated community with access to coffee shops, A+ school zone, houses in the $400K+ range. I've not seen anything in that range so far that looks comparable to my current condo. I am currently doing research online however it is a bit challenging to do without actually having access to the area. I am planning a visit in March 2015. Can't wait...
The summers aren't that cool, they just utterly lack humidity. Still can get quite hot. It's a high plains desert actually, not up "in the mountains" even though we are at a high elevation. Of course not as hot as FL. Just not cool.
- Diversity in the schools
- Near-ish to Schriever
- Easy access to retail but not in a congested area
- Rent about $1200
All of those things you mention have me wanting to suggest the newer parts of Security-Widefield or Fountain to you. You should be able to get a single family house to rent for that, though you will also have to pay for utilities (don't know if you do now) but bear in mind that city-wide, rent has gone up disproportionately with the actual price of properties. It's a good time to be a landlord. I think rents went up significantly after the fires we had, with so many displaced while they rebuilt, and they just never went back down.
My teenage sons go to Widefield District 3 schools, and they are diverse in a good way as far as I can tell. Mixed kinds of races and cultures and people but they mix well and I don't see much tension. I know that in many parts of the nation, people of different races still self-segregate...if you are looking for a big population that is almost completely one race (say, black, or hispanic, etc) and has a strong identity...that doesn't seem to be how it is in CoS. (We do have a lot of white people but it's lot like there is any cohesive cultural identity to go with that.) People just seem to mix right in and get along from what I see. Frankly I like that. My white son has had a black girlfriend since 7th grade and nobody bats an eye because it doesn't matter. To me...that's diversity. What you're looking for may or may not be like this. I also think that the military drives a lot of our diversity as it shapes much of our economy and demographics overall.
Anyhow... I would honestly suggest, with your need to work at Schriever, that you look either up the Powers corridor, or in Security-Widefield, or Fountain. I advise you to avoid school district 2 (Harrison.) They don't have a very good reputation. Fountain (D8) is considered quite good, and Widefield (D3) has been good for us and has fantastic music programs. In Widefield, my boys also really enjoy our community center with the swimming pools, and the library.
01-13-2015, 02:40 PM
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I think Sonic has given the same advice I would give in this situation. It is also a tiny bit warmer in Widefield/Fountain than in Colorado Springs proper, generally speaking - a tiny difference you might nevertheless appreciate since you are concerned about temperature.
02-25-2015, 01:06 AM
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I live here in Colorado Springs and am one of those that don't particularly care for it. There are good things and bad things no matter where you go, I guess. The best part to me is no bugs, the cost of living is not bad, there is a decent music scene, and the mountains look amazing. The bad things are not a whole lot to do here (you can drive to Denver but not something you want to do all the time), in the summer, it does get hot yet a majority of the homes don't have a/c. I guess I am just used to that from ALWAYS having it until I moved here, I'm not a big winter activity person and I dislike snow.
I will actually be moving to the Tampa area in June. Yes, it is hot and humid but I'll be in my air conditioned home, Ill be going to the beach, concerts in the park, festivals, etc. You can have my mountain view. I'll be sitting in an outdoor restaurant, eating some good seafood, sipping a margarita, and listening to the sound of the ocean!
02-25-2015, 09:09 AM
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I think the person I responded to deleted their post...huh...whatever.
Yeah, I miss the sound of the ocean. But I think that the occasional visit is enough, I like that it's a "special" thing and would not want to ever take it for granted.
And I think A/C is a must here. I wouldn't want to be without it. Dry heat is still heat. I do go a little batty when I have A/C running one day and heat the next, though! It's happened!
I lived in a "concerts and festivals all the time" kind of place before here, and I spent a lot of money doing those things. Now I have weekly pool league and weekly "game night" where about 20 of us get together and play Cards Against Humanity or Munchkin or D&D or whatever...still spend money on pool and on feeding my guests sometimes, but ya know I think I'm getting more fun for my buck. The people here are fantastic. "Things to do" are what you make 'em, I figure.
02-25-2015, 11:56 AM
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I used to live in Orlando back in the 80's. I lived in the Sand Lake Hills/Dr. Phillips area. In comparing the two, here is what I offer:
1. Four seasons. Florida is nice in the winter but unbearably hot and humid in the summer. Colorado can get hot but it is a dry heat. The radiant energy from the sun can make a 20 degree swing. If it's 80 in the sun, it could feel like 60 in the shade. The weather is very unpredictable here. I've seen highs of 70 in January and 60 in July. I've seen 60 at lunch time and 3 inches of snow in the late afternoon. Crazy? Yes, but I love it. It's never stagnant.
2. No bugs is a big deal for me. I love to hike and camp. If you go into a wooded area in Florida, you hear bugs everywhere. Go into the forest here and you hear silence. Love that too.
3. Cost of living? Probably cheaper than Florida but it's been awhile for me down there. $1,200 will get you anything a single person could ever want/need.
4. Nightlife? I hear Tejon has some good parties but I have never been the clubbing type. I'd rather be in the mountains, away from all the noise, and enjoy a good campfire and a beer.
5. Car? If you really like it, keep it. But I'd recommend another vehicle for bad winter driving or getting you to and from the ski resorts. I've had a Camaro SS here before and it was a handful and I grew up driving in snow with a RWD car. For a self proclaimed snow driving novice? You don't want a rear wheel drive car here in the winter. Nothing beats having the flexibility to go where you want when you want without being limited.
6. COS or DEN? Both would be fine. Both have good and bad qualities. I agree that if you can check it out first, do that. In the absence of that, I'd choose COS because it's less people which equals less traffic. Having lived in NoVa, I'm done with traffic.
Hope this helps.
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Yes, I think everyone is different in what attributes make up their "best" place to live. You just have to come experience it for yourself.
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A few days of sub-zero weather clears out the bugs. Love Colorado!
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Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)