12-06-2015, 06:54 PM
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Plus, I like the random shootings at Planned Parenthood. Once again, the Springs has outdone itself. I also enjoyed the nut jobs who would ask which part of town I lived in, and when I answered "Manitou," they'd warn me how the streets of Manitou would soon be running with blood (thanks for the helpful tip, buddy). My unpleasant experience aside, just don't talk politics or god to someone unless you feel pretty certain of a positive response. Also, refrain from slapping any amusing bumper stickers on your car. You'd be amazed at the number of people in Colorado Springs who have absolutely no sense of humor. There's many here who agree with allprolab about how mild mannered the Fundie set is, but I disagree. As being both a practicing Buddhist and a single woman living alone in Manitou, I sometimes felt that half the town had decided I was a witch or something even worse. Although I must say that when I had some such unpleasant encounter, I could shut them up by pulling out my broom and flying off.
How do you like Manitou? It intrigues me, but I don't know if it is primarily a small toursit destination or if it would be a great place for a young family. The vibe there seems like something we would enjoy.
12-07-2015, 08:04 AM
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Plus, I like the random shootings at Planned Parenthood. Once again, the Springs has outdone itself. I also enjoyed the nut jobs who would ask which part of town I lived in, and when I answered "Manitou," they'd warn me how the streets of Manitou would soon be running with blood (thanks for the helpful tip, buddy). My unpleasant experience aside, just don't talk politics or god to someone unless you feel pretty certain of a positive response. Also, refrain from slapping any amusing bumper stickers on your car. You'd be amazed at the number of people in Colorado Springs who have absolutely no sense of humor. There's many here who agree with allprolab about how mild mannered the Fundie set is, but I disagree. As being both a practicing Buddhist and a single woman living alone in Manitou, I sometimes felt that half the town had decided I was a witch or something even worse. Although I must say that when I had some such unpleasant encounter, I could shut them up by pulling out my broom and flying off.
Now you sound like a Denverite. I don't suppose you heard that the shooter was from Hartsel, had only lived in the state a short time and came here from the Carolinas. Hardly a Springs local. No one here knows yet if his fundie approach had anything to do with all the evangelical organizations here or not, but even they condemned the attack. I will agree that there are some here with no sense of humor at all, but I've encountered those types nearly everywhere I've ever been to as well, so we certainly don't have a monopoly on that mindset.
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How do you like Manitou? It intrigues me, but I don't know if it is primarily a small toursit destination or if it would be a great place for a young family. The vibe there seems like something we would enjoy.
Colorado Rambler doesn't live there any longer. She has bailed for the four corners area, but I do not know how long ago that may have been. However, Manitou is more than just a tourist stop. They hills around it are covered with houses that are occupied year round. They have a fairly decent school system. They have a small but eclectic food scene. They have a wide range of housing from Victorian to new, small to huge. Just keep in mind that Manitou is much larger than the downtown tourist strip. It extends all the way down to the west side of COS and half way up the side of Pikes Peak via Crystal Park. Like most places in Colorado, it obviously is not for everyone, but some love it there. Same could be said of any place really. Just do your research.
12-07-2015, 10:31 AM
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^^
Thanks.
The irony regarding the shooting is that my wife and I are essentially considering two places: Colorado Springs and Asheville, NC. The shooter was from Black Mountain, NC, which is about twenty minutes east of Asheville. I'm not sure what to make of our selections, lol. That was obviously a joke -- I think that person was just deranged.
12-07-2015, 04:51 PM
Location: Colorado Springs
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^^
Thanks.
The irony regarding the shooting is that my wife and I are essentially considering two places: Colorado Springs and Asheville, NC. The shooter was from Black Mountain, NC, which is about twenty minutes east of Asheville. I'm not sure what to make of our selections, lol. That was obviously a joke -- I think that person was just deranged.
The springs is actually a fairly safe mdisize city with a low crime rate. There is no area that can be considered truly dangerous unless you are involved with criminal elements already.
12-07-2015, 06:49 PM
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I drove through The Springs today (I was in Denver for a couple days anyway) and was very impressed. I really liked OCC and the Old North End. OCC has a huge number of historic houses, and access to the mountains and hiking/biking is incredible. I also really liked Manitou Springs, but I'm not sure I'd want to live there. Its downtown is obviously geared for a good amount of tourism, and it is literally on the mountain. It sort of reminded me of Ruidosa a bit. If that is way off, forgive me, I only spent about an hour there.
This definitely makes our decision difficult. We had been leaning toward Asheville, and we may still go that way. CS was definitely all positives today, though. This would have sounded crazy to me before I actually saw it for myself, but I think the scenery from OCC to Manitou Springs is prettier than the scenery in Boulder. Even the entire panorama along 25 as one drives into town is postcard-worthy.
12-07-2015, 09:45 PM
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When I was planning my move to COS, I looked at a couple houses in Manitou Springs, but on consideration I decided it was too tourist-oriented and not enough resident-oriented. In particular, there isn't a supermarket in town.... the closest one is the Safeway in OCC. I think OCC is a fine alternative to Manitou; it's very walkable, has a fun "downtown" area with many restaurants and funky little shops, but it's also got more services. It's also less at risk for flooding and wildfires.
12-08-2015, 06:15 AM
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I also would not want to live in most of Manitou - nothing against Manitou - it is quaint. But the traffic through town in summer and on event days would annoy me if I had to go through it all the time to go to/from home. And there are plenty of people around potentially out your front door, depending on your address who don't live there a lot of the time, which would also bother me because sometimes people who don't live there don't take care of a place the same way a local would. I've hiked the Manitou area trails a lot and there is a lot of non-resident foot and vehicle traffic even off the main strip. And now that the Incline is legal, that traffic is higher year round. My brother and his wife lived there years ago and some of the side streets are pretty awkward to get up and down in winter. And although there's been a lot of mitigation, floods will continue to be a concern there. I think if I were a young college student looking for adventure I might find it fun to stay there for a few years, and I certainly enjoy going there for an afternoon on the town. My mother had a friend who moved to a main street apartment there after high school. That was considered incredibly improper back then - very hippy of her.
12-08-2015, 08:03 AM
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I think COS is very much 'live and let live' in its culture. Although this isn't a mecca for liberals or vegetarians or atheists, all are found here and welcome here.
Agree. Moved here 17 years ago from Denver. I've lived all over town during my time here.
I'm also in a business where I meet new people almost everyday. Not once have a ever been proselytized to (except by the occasional JW). Not even LDS missionaries have knocked on my door (to my knowledge).
Our reputation precedes us. We are more of a libertarian community than conservative. The reputation comes from the megachurches that located here 20 years ago when the city was trying to diversify the economy. Unfortunately, that is still wishful thinking (diversification of the economy). We do have an independent streak and love the second amendment. Much of that is due to the military influence, which I actually find welcoming. While Denver votes 80/20 for the liberal candidate, we are usually more moderate on the conservative side, 60/40.
Should you choose to move here, I'm certain you will get along just fine, especially the west side and Manitou.
Best wishes and consider yourselves welcome here!
12-09-2015, 07:16 AM
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I'd love to live in Manitou proper, but what I need for space and buildings doesn't mix well with what can be found right in town. If I was willing to move into the newer areas, I might find it, but again, it isn't what I want. Downtown Manitou is very walkable and its closeness to the mountains means it has excellent hiking near by.
OCC and Manitou do tend to have older homes than ONEN. The oldest homes in both of these areas are 1870-1890 whereas ONEN homes tend to be 1890-1920s. That creates to subtle differences in architecture that may matter to some. It also creates the need to fairly detailed inspections before purchase as ONEN and Manitou tended to be more affluent communities in their day and had more substantial original construction and updates over the last century whereas OCC was more of a working class neighborhood and had more homeowner and laymen changes performed to them.
Another item to consider is the while the OCC downtown area is a historic district, many of its residences are not. Conversely, nearly all of the ONEN and the Weber-Wahsatch residences areas are designated historic districts. Not all, but most. This could have in influence on buying decisions as well since it may be a concern of what types of exterior changes and out buildings you can have available.
While OCC is close to Bear Creek, Red Rocks, and Garden of the Gods areas as well as the foothills, these are very popular areas that tend to get somewhat busy. ONEN may be a bit further from the foothills trails but does have Monument Valley Park, Bonfort Park and shopping center which is next to Shooks Run trail and near the Rock Island trail. In the near future it will have the Legacy Loop trailas well as a new retail center going into the old Lincoln School building on north Cascade and there are rumors of an effort for a street car network that will run from downtown, through ONEN, to UCCS.
Not sure if you anticipate being here long enough to need to make school decisions or not, but that may be a factor if you don't want to move later. Manitou schools are decent. I know several CoS westsiders who permit into them. By contrast, D11 schools on the westside are loosing population. Schools around the ONEN area tend to be fairly highly rated.
Thanks for the compliments on the area. Many of us here feel that way about where we live and it is nice to hear that from a visitor. Good luck in your search and decision process!
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Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)