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Old 03-29-2018, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Iíve said before that drivers here are the same as elsewhere, except it seems like a lot of drivers donít turn on their lights at dusk and dawn. Is this a Colorado thing?

Nah, failure to use turn signals is a CO thing. I've heard jokes about that all the way back to the late 70s.
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Old 03-29-2018, 08:07 AM
 
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I know I've picked up "bad" behaviours driving in Denver, bad traffic will do that to you... Certain things like turning left on yellow lights, lots of lane changes, speeding to get through lights... The thing is, is that these things really do save time, because otherwise you get stuck waiting through multiple lights, turning a 18 minute commute into a 25 minute one (for 3 miles lol).

I've never got a ticket or had anything bad happen over my entire driving career. When I get in less stressful, congested roads (going back to CO Springs to visit parents ) my driving tones down back to normal.

The one thing I do a lot is run red lights later at night if it's not a major intersection and it's obvious no one else is there after I've stopped and looked around. To me, this is the least risk, most reward bad driving behaviour.
You're supposed to turn on the yellow...after the last person who went through the intersection...I thought?

The thing I notice most here, is the lack of regard for right of way (after running red lights) when turning.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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You actually are not supposed to enter the intersection unless you have a green light and clear passage. Sitting in the intersection under the green waiting to turn is technically illegal. Similarly, if the light turns yellow and then red and a vehicle is still in the intersection, the vehicle in the intersection has the right of way to exit and you must yield to them even if you have a green light. I had an acquaintance who got a "Green Light Violation" ticket for this once.

Of course, most of this is moot since it is rarely enforced any more.
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Old 03-29-2018, 05:56 PM
 
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I know I've picked up "bad" behaviours driving in Denver, bad traffic will do that to you... Certain things like turning left on yellow lights, lots of lane changes, speeding to get through lights... The thing is, is that these things really do save time, because otherwise you get stuck waiting through multiple lights, turning a 18 minute commute into a 25 minute one (for 3 miles lol).

I've never got a ticket or had anything bad happen over my entire driving career. When I get in less stressful, congested roads (going back to CO Springs to visit parents ) my driving tones down back to normal.

The one thing I do a lot is run red lights later at night if it's not a major intersection and it's obvious no one else is there after I've stopped and looked around. To me, this is the least risk, most reward bad driving behaviour.




Just wow . My 20 year son has mild Asperger's and is currently living with his father in Parker. You just confirmed my worst fears of him learning to drive in Colorado. I will be sure to show his father this thread so that he keeps my kid off the roads until he comes back home here in Tennessee where it is much safer.
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Old 03-29-2018, 06:55 PM
 
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Just wow . My 20 year son has mild Asperger's and is currently living with his father in Parker. You just confirmed my worst fears of him learning to drive in Colorado. I will be sure to show his father this thread so that he keeps my kid off the roads until he comes back home here in Tennessee where it is much safer.
We have a family friend with Asperger's, who drives but doesn't go on the highways....she's 22.

It's really not that bad, I'd just avoid high commute areas. Most of Parker in the neighborhoods should be fine, Parker road can get a little crazy and so can the people leaving or entering a few big shopping areas...but if they drive a bit South or further East to where it's less populated, it would be a lot easier for a beginner.

Any high commute time will have a large share of angry drivers cutting people off and speeding their way home. Most places I'd assume...but especially places where people commute 1+ hours across the city.
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Just wow . My 20 year son has mild Asperger's and is currently living with his father in Parker. You just confirmed my worst fears of him learning to drive in Colorado. I will be sure to show his father this thread so that he keeps my kid off the roads until he comes back home here in Tennessee where it is much safer.
uh oh . Well it depends where and when he's driving. The things that are stressful and annoying are the 2 lane roads full of traffic and cars parked on both sides, 1 way roads with lanes backed up for turns on both the right and left side, walls of poorly timed stop lights, garbage trucks picking up trash in your lane... It's the road environment more so necessarily than the people on the road. Parker may be more similar to CO Springs, where I never really had a problem because traffic flows at a constant rate and you won't keep missing your light if you don't budge out.
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You actually are not supposed to enter the intersection unless you have a green light and clear passage. Sitting in the intersection under the green waiting to turn is technically illegal. Similarly, if the light turns yellow and then red and a vehicle is still in the intersection, the vehicle in the intersection has the right of way to exit and you must yield to them even if you have a green light. I had an acquaintance who got a "Green Light Violation" ticket for this once.

Of course, most of this is moot since it is rarely enforced any more.
I never pull out into the intersection just because you never know if there'll be a gap and you don't want to be stuck there. I feel like on high speed roads, say Powers, it's a lot more dangerous and there's less of a reason to because you know you can make the next light. It's the slow moving wall of cars on 2 lane roads where it's more tempting. I could see why they'd have laws against it.
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:15 PM
 
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Wow! I expressed the very same frustrations when we moved to Florida 3 years ago. The drivers here are crazy. My husband was a policeman for 27 years in PA and he has witnessed things here that he just can’t believe. I always say that tailgating must be the state sport because it’s everytime you go out on the road. So bad that we are thinking of moving. Was thinking about moving to CO but maybe not!
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Old 03-29-2018, 10:22 PM
 
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Wow! I expressed the very same frustrations when we moved to Florida 3 years ago. The drivers here are crazy. My husband was a policeman for 27 years in PA and he has witnessed things here that he just can’t believe. I always say that tailgating must be the state sport because it’s everytime you go out on the road. So bad that we are thinking of moving. Was thinking about moving to CO but maybe not!
There is bad driving everywhere. Don't let this venting threads throw you off the trail. It's our equivalent of complaining about the weather.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:53 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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We had so many people running red lights here in my town they eventually put up cameras at the worst intersections. Funny how so many people didn't take those seriously. At least, until the first batch of tickets went out. Now you very seldom even see someone speed up to make a yellow. It worked here, so maybe that's something you guys should try. And as a bonus, it brings in lots of money for the city.

Tailgating, though? All I can suggest is to modify your car and have a couple canisters of some skunk smell you can release with the touch of a button on your dashboard. That should back a few people off. I might be wrong, but I think you can really buy something like that.

When I was tailgated I used to start driving slower and slower, and then stop and put on the hazard lights. That got the guy behind me so wound up he'd go roaring around...and there was peace again. But if you have that many tailgaters there, well, no one wants to take an hour to go 5 miles.
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Old 03-30-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Wow! I expressed the very same frustrations when we moved to Florida 3 years ago. The drivers here are crazy. My husband was a policeman for 27 years in PA and he has witnessed things here that he just canít believe. I always say that tailgating must be the state sport because itís everytime you go out on the road. So bad that we are thinking of moving. Was thinking about moving to CO but maybe not!
Now, my experience in central FL last fall was the complete opposite. Everyone was driving quite sanely if not even slower than limits, following signage and signals most of the times I was on the road in most places I was driving. Even an interstate detour saw people doing a great job of alternating access to the side road.

Guess its all timing and location.

On the other hand, I agree with others about red light runners and tailgaters. They seem to be everywhere, but like MFBE says, we all like to vent about it because everybody else on the road is either a maniac speed demon or a g-damn slow poke. We are all perfect drivers, of course.
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