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Old 05-14-2018, 02:09 PM
 
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Well okay, what else would draw an out-of-stater to spend time vacationing in Colorado Springs?
Having lived here 15+ years (probably with another 20 or so to go, as my particular career does not travel well once established in a given place) I'd respond that basically nothing including the Cog Railroad would or should draw an out-of-stater to vacation here. I understand however that tens of thousands of folks do in fact come here to vacation, I'm guessing drawn by the desire to briefly escape the oppressive humidity of summers most anywhere east of here, along with the generally picturesque views, the touristy little town of Manitou, their local family members, and various/sundry other random events they may find interesting (Pikes Peak Hill Climb; Pikes Peak Marathon/Ascent; Broadmoor golf events; etc.). My wife's Minnesota friends who now live in California were ALL GUNG HO about visiting Focus on the Family headquarters. We were both bewildered and cordial ... like "uh ... oh ... kay ... have fun up there!"


IMHO CO Springs is not especially worth visiting (sorry Visitor Center folks who I know and like) but it IS a high-quality-of-life option as a place to LIVE, even with it's shortcomings and frustrating one-party system corruption, relative to so many other urban/rural options. Big enough to have a functional economy for almost all professionals. Small enough to have a 12-15 minute daily commute if you want one. Big enough to have quality schools and extra-curricular activity options for kids, if you look hard enough. Small enough to not have Denver or LA style housing costs and traffic congestion. As much as it leaves to be desired, I have to grudgingly admit most other places (both in CO and the US) are either too insanely expensive and congested or too remote and/or decaying. There's a small handful of mid-size cities that strike an imperfect but decent balance and (grumble/begrudgingly) CO Springs is probably one of ten or less such cities that are remain both lovely and livable, if imperfect.


Visit here as a tourist destination? I can't even imagine, but I understand that people do and far be it from me to denigrate them. Me, I'll head to a place with a thriving arts/culture scene like Santa Fe or Taos, but I guess we all sometimes need to get away from "here" wherever that may be.
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Old 05-15-2018, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Visit here as a tourist destination? I can't even imagine, but I understand that people do and far be it from me to denigrate them. Me, I'll head to a place with a thriving arts/culture scene like Santa Fe or Taos, but I guess we all sometimes need to get away from "here" wherever that may be.
Fortunately for us, not everyone shares your opinion on this as a visitor's destination, but, I'll also conceed that when planning a family vacation, we probably are not foremost in most people's minds. However, once people do come here for a non-vacation reason, be it the AFA, Olympic training, either of the Pikes Peak races, or military service, and they see the range of items we do have easy access to, then they may decide to make it a point to visit. In all honesty, the Colorado marketing machine means, as a state, we are never too far away from some people vacation thoughts.

As I have been pointing out somewhat obtusely is that there is no one single uniquely Colorado Springs thing here that would attract people as a distinctly Colorado Springs experience. Everything we have here can be found somewhere else, even the cog railway. However, when taken as a whole, the uniqueness of the Pikes Peak region, both from the naturalist perspective pointed out by otowi, and the man made items to mesh with and sometimes capitalize on the natural environment, means that we have a very broad range of items, attractions, and things to do that can meet a broad range of activities that a family may want to experience. Hiking a 14teener, driving a 14teener, river rafting, caving, hiking, biking, brew tours, military tours, world class athletics, sunshine, clear skys and clean air, mountain side zoo, variety of museums, Victorian and Edwardian architecture, wild west towns, historic labor wars, plains and prairies and deserts, wildlife, mountain towns, natural experiences, radical zip lines, historic trains, a world class resort, a military academy, military bases, a top rated liberal arts college, a growing research university, golfing, sports, its a long list. The variety of items you can do within the region, that makes this a high quality of life place to live, means it can also be an attractive place to spend vacation dollars.

But I'm with you on sometimes needing a "there" to get away from "here" to feel like a bonafide vacation. The fact you can have staycations in between those big trips without going far from home is what is uniquely Colorado Springs, not any one single thing.

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Old 05-15-2018, 08:45 PM
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Location: Manitou Springs
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Colorado Springs is in Colorado. Yes, duh. This is to say that going to Colorado, going "out west", has always been a "thing", to use current terminology. Or even an old phrase, "go West, young man". For many, there has always been a pull to go to certain places if you didn't live in those certain places. Colorado, California, Alaska ... and etc. if there are any etceteras.

As someone from New England, coming west to Colorado stemmed from a strong pull to do so. The west, the Rockies and what that word conjured; to me Colorado held a mystique.

So I don't necessarily think people coming to here to vacation are coming to Colorado Springs, they're coming to Colorado, and that's the big deal, the unique, the Rocky Mountains and the wide open spaces and everything else that's wonderful about this beautiful state. Some of it is here were we live, but a lot of it is elsewhere in the state, which visitors may or may not explore. But in Colorado Springs, they do get a taste of the west, and the mountains and the plains ... and mostly that's enough, and mostly that's the attraction.
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Old 06-12-2018, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Cog Railway owner, Manitou Springs officials considering $75 million to $95 million plan to reopen the tourist attraction

Cog Railway owner, Manitou Springs officials considering $75 million to $95 million plan to reopen the tourist attraction | Colorado Springs Gazette, News
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:40 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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In preliminary vote, Manitou Springs council unanimously approves deal to rebuild Cog Railway

In preliminary vote, Manitou Springs council unanimously approves deal to rebuild Cog Railway | Colorado Springs Gazette, News

"The Manitou Springs City Council gave a unanimous preliminary vote of approval Tuesday night for a deal that would enable the rebuilding of the historic Cog Railway and keep its train cars chugging up and down Pikes Peak for decades to come.

Another vote still must be taken on the agreement with Oklahoma Publishing Co., parent company of The Broadmoor hotel and the Cog Railway.

Under the pact, the city would give the ownership group two tax breaks, incentives it says it needs to invest $75 million to $95 million to rebuild the railway.

In March, Broadmoor President and CEO Jack Damioli announced that the aging railway had "run its useful life," and a study would weigh whether it should be refurbished or permanently closed. The analysis found that nearly $100 million likely would be needed to restore the system, rebuilding the track and expanding, remodeling or even demolishing the railway's Manitou depot."


"Work on the Cog could begin in August with a partial reopening in May 2020, in time for the debut later that year of the $50 million Summit House that would greet Cog riders atop Pikes Peak."

That's quite a commitment to spend nearly $100M to rebuild this premier attraction. It could be a great step in promoting Colorado Springs as a great tourism destination.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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More on the agreement between Manitou and the train's operator.
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Old Today, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Cody, WY
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It will reopen in 2021. Are people excited? I am—I'll be there. I made my first trip about 1950. I made my only steam trip in about 1954 behind #5. I know it's a forlorn hope, but it would be great if they ran a few steam trains.

https://www.kktv.com/content/news/Pi...501548472.html
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Old Today, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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It will reopen in 2021. Are people excited? I amI'll be there. I made my first trip about 1950. I made my only steam trip in about 1954 behind #5. I know it's a forlorn hope, but it would be great if they ran a few steam trains.

https://www.kktv.com/content/news/Pi...501548472.html
That's good news! It's such a piece of Colorado history and I'm very happy it will be reopened for more generations to enjoy. I look forward to going back again myself.
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