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Old 04-15-2018, 08:15 PM
 
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I just started to read about this. No plans for public transit; no parks? What the...? I am disabled and as a consequence, I often have to depend on public transit these days. The Banning Lewis development would hold exactly zero appeal for folks with disabilities just on the question of public transit alone. And they don't know how much TABOR will impact projected city revenues from the planned development? And where on earth are they going to get the water required for some 175,000 more people who want to plant greenery around their homes?

So, Colorado Springs is undergoing "leap frog" growth waaaaay out on the plains and now they're reneging on the 6 lane highway and want to put in just a 4 lane one instead - they should just call THAT what it will quickly become - a 4 lane parking lot.

Much as I want to give a move back to the Springs (mainly for better access to medical care) a chance, the more I learn, the more put off I become. I could easily move to a town like Cedaredge here on the Western Slope and get my medical care out of Grand Junction and fly to Denver a couple of times a year to consult with a specialist.

I can see where young families would find appeal in the Banning Lewis development - maybe, except NO PARKS? Jeeez!
Donít think Iíve ever lived anywhere where developers were responsible for public transit?
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Old 04-15-2018, 08:35 PM
 
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The BLR site is pretty thin. The blog has only 1 minor news item in over 1.5 years. No outline of company positions on issues coming up for decisions. Probably the thinnest site I've ever seen for a potential huge development.

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Old 04-15-2018, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Downtown Co Sps
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And, it's not totally controlled by *leftists. Hopefully it stays that way.
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Old 04-16-2018, 02:32 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Don’t think I’ve ever lived anywhere where developers were responsible for public transit?
The issue of public transit for the new development was mentioned in an article on the BLR in the CS Independent (it's a lengthy read and the quote is toward the end):

The issue of density aside, Councilor [Tom] Strand wonders if the city has made a mistake in overlooking transit. The new agreement contains no requirements that developers provide bus stations or stops. "The presumption is young families are going to move out there who have minimal needs for transit and that might not be correct," he says. "If so, this is shortsighted. You're going to have people who are seniors, who have disabilities, who can't drive."

It seems to me that the Springs should take a hard look at Denver's innovations in regard to public transit. If you are going to build a dynamic city that is attractive to both new residents and companies seeking to relocate, an efficient system of public transit would be a definite plus. As it is, we have better public transit in Cortez than what Colorado Springs has.

I would be surprised if I am the only person who considers the Springs' antiquated city bus system to be a major drawback to what is in other respects an up and coming city.
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Old 04-16-2018, 04:30 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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I don't expect Colorado Springs will ever enthusiastically endorse Public Transit. The city is way too spread out. That makes Public Transportation expensive. It simply costs more than the taxpayers are willing to pay.

Personally, when I am without a car and need a ride I use Uber. That gets an immediate response.
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:25 AM
 
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I would be surprised if I am the only person who considers the Springs' antiquated city bus system to be a major drawback to what is in other respects an up and coming city.
A lifetime of living here I sense that a lot of people look at public transportation not as something that makes you a first class city - such as Denver might have viewed it when investing in light rail, etc. - but rather as something that encourages a lower-class, more impoverished element to live here. i.e. if you need public transportation this city sees you as something undesirable, a drain on the city rather than a productive more wealthy and more attractive citizen.

I certainly don't agree with that and I don't think that view is unanimous but I think that kind of comes with the history of the city's anti-tax rather libertarian economic forays, etc.
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:03 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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A lifetime of living here I sense that a lot of people look at public transportation not as something that makes you a first class city - such as Denver might have viewed it when investing in light rail, etc. - but rather as something that encourages a lower-class, more impoverished element to live here. i.e. if you need public transportation this city sees you as something undesirable, a drain on the city rather than a productive more wealthy and more attractive citizen.

I certainly don't agree with that and I don't think that view is unanimous but I think that kind of comes with the history of the city's anti-tax rather libertarian economic forays, etc.
ďA developed country is not a place where the poor have cars. It's where the rich use public transportation.Ē

― Gustavo Petro
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Old 04-16-2018, 08:19 AM
 
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Is the bus system that bad? They're so pretty and purple!
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Old 04-16-2018, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Is the bus system that bad? They're so pretty and purple!
The schedules for the buses are limited and you can't get anywhere in a reasonable time.
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