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Old 05-03-2018, 02:48 PM
 
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I started fighting those "city of whack jobs" stereotypes as soon as I got on this site in 2006. Yes, the mother hive (Corporate HQ) of some whack jobs are in COLO SPGS, but their wacky followers are all over the nation, only a few are local. I used to tell people there are no roadblocks on I-25 with zealots dragging people from their cars at gunpoint to baptize them in Monument Creek....but if they do, maybe they could start with Doug Bruce .... hold him under a bit longer...okay... hold him under a lot longer.... forgive me father.... I have fantasies....
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Old 05-03-2018, 10:38 PM
 
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i started fighting those "city of whack jobs" stereotypes as soon as i got on this site in 2006. Yes, the mother hive (corporate hq) of some whack jobs are in colo spgs, but their wacky followers are all over the nation, only a few are local. I used to tell people there are no roadblocks on i-25 with zealots dragging people from their cars at gunpoint to baptize them in monument creek....but if they do, maybe they could start with doug bruce .... Hold him under a bit longer...okay... Hold him under a lot longer.... Forgive me father.... I have fantasies....

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Old 05-04-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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We are a gay, interracial couple - white and Asian and have lived in Colorado for 5 years or so, but in NOCO. However, we have traveled the state extensively and have a cabin in a rural southern Colorado town. We have never once had any issues and everyone has treated us well. Most people in Colorado hold a more libertarian view on these things, minding their own business.

We don't know any other gay people and haven't sought out any sort of gay 'scene' however, so I cannot speak about that aspect of things. But, I don't think you'll have any issues anywhere in Colorado.
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Old 05-04-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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I moved here not too long ago from a very open-minded city and had some trepidation about the conservative reputation this city has. I have not encountered anything judgmental other than some mostly older (neighbors) who are very conservative politically and like to express their gripes about guns, taxes going up and such. I would say mostly though that folks seem to live and let live.
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Old 05-04-2018, 01:49 PM
 
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I started fighting those "city of whack jobs" stereotypes as soon as I got on this site in 2006. Yes, the mother hive (Corporate HQ) of some whack jobs are in COLO SPGS, but their wacky followers are all over the nation, only a few are local. I used to tell people there are no roadblocks on I-25 with zealots dragging people from their cars at gunpoint to baptize them in Monument Creek....but if they do, maybe they could start with Doug Bruce .... hold him under a bit longer...okay... hold him under a lot longer.... forgive me father.... I have fantasies....
Alright I was trying to keep this to myself but I just...can't. I can't anymore. Maybe you'll find it amusing.

A woman I know, is well...she's an adventurous dater, that's all I'll say about that. She is gorgeous. Anyhow. She was on an online dating site as a polyamorous lady. A couple approached her, interested in some threesome action. She met with them over coffee. Seems the wifey had curiosities, and the hubs was all too happy to see them satisfied. But the main requirement they had in their proposed involvement with my friend? Discretion. See...the wife?...she's a prominent upper level staff person at Focus on the Family, and if word ever got out...



My friend considered it, but told me in the end, the hypocrisy was just too icky to overcome even the fun of "corrupting the innocent." We had a laugh.
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Old 05-07-2018, 10:11 AM
 
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Alright I was trying to keep this to myself but I just...can't. I can't anymore. Maybe you'll find it amusing.

A woman I know, is well...she's an adventurous dater, that's all I'll say about that. She is gorgeous. Anyhow. She was on an online dating site as a polyamorous lady. A couple approached her, interested in some threesome action. She met with them over coffee. Seems the wifey had curiosities, and the hubs was all too happy to see them satisfied. But the main requirement they had in their proposed involvement with my friend? Discretion. See...the wife?...she's a prominent upper level staff person at Focus on the Family, and if word ever got out...



My friend considered it, but told me in the end, the hypocrisy was just too icky to overcome even the fun of "corrupting the innocent." We had a laugh.
I think you've just ruined FoF for me...we haven't been, but I was expecting it to be a wholesome experience where even I feel a bit less than pure while walking around...training our children up to be godly men who live biblically.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they could lose their job if that got out. My husband has been looking at IT jobs, and everytime he comes across one at a ministry of sorts there's several paragraphs about Jesus before the job description, then under the requirements stuff little, "sign declaration of faith," "live biblically," "knowledge of Christian culture."

I love Jesus and the Bible, but some of that is too much imo.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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I think you've just ruined FoF for me...we haven't been, but I was expecting it to be a wholesome experience where even I feel a bit less than pure while walking around...training our children up to be godly men who live biblically.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they could lose their job if that got out. My husband has been looking at IT jobs, and everytime he comes across one at a ministry of sorts there's several paragraphs about Jesus before the job description, then under the requirements stuff little, "sign declaration of faith," "live biblically," "knowledge of Christian culture."

I love Jesus and the Bible, but some of that is too much imo.
Eh, I dunno. Look, as someone who completely rejects all things religion (while managing to embrace the concept of faith--the two aren't the same thing!) I have a hard time speaking to this. But I don't really feel an entire organization should be judged by the sneaky attempts to indulge a "sin" (if such ya believe) by one person. Were I in the market for a church org, I'd go check it out and try to form an opinion as fairly as I could. I figure?

I suspect, humans being human and all, that no church exists that is free of any sinful pursuits on the part of any of its leadership or personnel. But...isn't that kind of the point of Jesus and everything?

FotF would never be for me, I disagree fundamentally with so many tenets of their entire philosophy, the anti-gay stances being among the more significant. But I'm sure it's a good fit for some folks. Gotta be or it wouldn't still exist.

Thing is...no matter what they think, I don't tend to see groups of these folks out bothering gay people or doing anything to trouble any particular gay person(s) living here in this town. If it's your thing, it's gotta be easy to get into it, and if it's not...it's pretty easy to ignore.

Or..."ghost"...as the case may be...
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Old 05-07-2018, 05:04 PM
 
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Eh, I dunno. Look, as someone who completely rejects all things religion (while managing to embrace the concept of faith--the two aren't the same thing!) I have a hard time speaking to this. But I don't really feel an entire organization should be judged by the sneaky attempts to indulge a "sin" (if such ya believe) by one person. Were I in the market for a church org, I'd go check it out and try to form an opinion as fairly as I could. I figure?

I suspect, humans being human and all, that no church exists that is free of any sinful pursuits on the part of any of its leadership or personnel. But...isn't that kind of the point of Jesus and everything?

FotF would never be for me, I disagree fundamentally with so many tenets of their entire philosophy, the anti-gay stances being among the more significant. But I'm sure it's a good fit for some folks. Gotta be or it wouldn't still exist.

Thing is...no matter what they think, I don't tend to see groups of these folks out bothering gay people or doing anything to trouble any particular gay person(s) living here in this town. If it's your thing, it's gotta be easy to get into it, and if it's not...it's pretty easy to ignore.

Or..."ghost"...as the case may be...
Agreed. I was surprised to see that the main requirement for a job was about Jesus. I guess that is within their rights as most likely a non profit or something.

I'm still confused on, "Christian," culture.

I'd also like to point out, there's groups on meetup.com too for people with a variety of orientations/interests/lifestyles for Colorado Springs.
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Old 05-08-2018, 07:21 AM
 
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Not a surprise to me at all. I've seen job posting for various evangelical organizations that say they require a testimony or affirmation as a condition of employment. It is simply aligning the organizations cultural values with potential candidates values. Nearly everyplace does it and it can be described as different personal attributes you see in postings such as "motivated", "high energy", "willing to meet aggressive goals", "customer centric", etc.
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Old 05-08-2018, 09:01 AM
 
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Not a surprise to me at all. I've seen job posting for various evangelical organizations that say they require a testimony or affirmation as a condition of employment. It is simply aligning the organizations cultural values with potential candidates values. Nearly everyplace does it and it can be described as different personal attributes you see in postings such as "motivated", "high energy", "willing to meet aggressive goals", "customer centric", etc.
True. I'm not in the least surprised with regard to an org whose very purpose is evangelism and organized religion, to have such requirements for employment...and of course how seriously anyone who agrees to all that and works there, takes the actual lifestyle of "Godliness" is going to be on them.

What's caused me to raise an eyebrow before, but it's totally a thing, is when it's a hospital complex, but it's faith affiliated, so you have to sign off on the "Christian values" alignment to be a nurse at like a "St. Mary's Hospital" or whatever. I mean, this is a huge medical complex. I wonder how many people just dial it in like, "yeah, yeah, whatever, sure I go to church..." just to have the job. Got to be a lot, I'd think.

EDIT: Contrast to my job, we're a big international software and accounting firm, and I wear my Tripp pants to work, and I was actually in the local Pride parade a few years back and not only did no one care, I'm betting if I'd gotten a good photo they would have shared it in the newsletter as "our employees making a positive difference in the community." We have a pro-diversity corporate culture here.
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