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Old 07-27-2018, 03:27 PM
Status: "Freedom - Diversity - Unity" (set 6 days ago)
 
Location: Mars City
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Of course, one can have "church" at home or outdoors, alone or with others. There's no need to depend on an existing group, in an existing building, and compromising to all of that. Who knows, you might end up with something entirely healthier and worthwhile. People in the past tended to take the initiative like that, while today, many seem to wait for or depend on others.

Personally, the best 'church' would be one with no discussion or elements of politics whatsoever. Set the bar higher; subscribe to higher level of integrity.

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Old 07-27-2018, 09:32 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Of course, one can have "church" at home or outdoors, alone or with others. There's no need to depend on an existing group, in an existing building, and compromising to all of that. Who knows, you might end up with something entirely healthier and worthwhile. People in the past tended to take the initiative like that, while today, many seem to wait for or depend on others.

Personally, the best 'church' would be one with no discussion or elements of politics whatsoever. Set the bar higher; subscribe to higher level of integrity.
There is an overlap however. Do we stand by and hope that aggressively racist leaders stop spewing divisive venom?

Set the bar even HIGHER. There can be no peace, where there is oppression and hatred. We are in "1930s Germany". Trump is telling us all what he wants to do and what he is. Let us take him at his word.

So many German people did not believe Hitler. Or they attended churches that were silent. They thought it was a good idea to make Germany great again. And that other stuff he said was just Hitler mouthing off, and standing up for Germany.

Later, the churches were forced to be silent. It was to late.
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Old 07-28-2018, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Woodland Park, CO
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Seeing the trolls makes it very difficult to ever want to step foot in a church again and the evangelicals have blown their "witness" - why would ANYONE ever want to visit a church after seeing this hate spew?!! If I wasn't strong in my faith and aware of how far off they are from God's heart, as stated in the Bible, I would be done!!!! In the Bible it talks about how the world will think they are doing a good thing by putting Christians to death, in the last days - for the first time, I can see how that can happen. I don't believe these people are true Christians, because Trump's missions go against so many scriptures, however, wearing the title of "evangelical" is very damaging to the whole church.
Nailed it. Glad I could help.
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Old 07-31-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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Born in the Springs, I see the prosperity message as a cult teaching. Go onto Youtube and listen to Francis Chan for an example of an evangelical who is not materialistic and preaches the Bible. My son just became Catholic a couple of years ago and I agree with you that their heart is in the right place - I just can't go along with some of their theology. I will take you up on your advice to look into the Orthodox branch. Thank you for being supportive!

Ironically I am thinking of relocating to the area, more-so Denver, but, I am an Orthodox Christian
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Old 07-31-2018, 06:54 PM
 
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Ironically I am thinking of relocating to the area, more-so Denver, but, I am an Orthodox Christian
We have a nice Orthodox community in Colorado Springs - not overly large, but pretty lively and active as far as I can tell.
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:13 PM
 
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If you’re willing to explore a bit, also check out the Unitarian Universalist denomination.
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Old 07-31-2018, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Despite the national media's obsession with evangelicals in our area, Cos actually has a very diverse range of religious options available throughout the city. Orthodox churches in Catholic, Eastern,and Greek denominations, Buddhists in Shinto, Theravada and Mahayana, Muslim, Jewish, Pagans, Wiccans, traditional Catholics and Episcopals, non-evangelical Protestant denominations, you name it, we probably have a place of worship for it.
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:26 AM
 
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We have a nice Orthodox community in Colorado Springs - not overly large, but pretty lively and active as far as I can tell.
Yea that's what I've heard from people I know in Denver. I'll be moving to metro Denver but wouldn't mind checking out Sts. Constantine & Helen. However, I'm not sure the Orthodox Church would be the church that OP is looking for. I'm cradle Orthodox and by-and-large Orthodox tend to be much more on the conservative spectrum. This doesn't necessarily equate to "Trump voter," but, most of the Russians/Greeks/Arabs I know have lived through hard times and come from more socially conservative countries, and they tend to vote that way themselves
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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Yea that's what I've heard from people I know in Denver. I'll be moving to metro Denver but wouldn't mind checking out Sts. Constantine & Helen. However, I'm not sure the Orthodox Church would be the church that OP is looking for. I'm cradle Orthodox and by-and-large Orthodox tend to be much more on the conservative spectrum. This doesn't necessarily equate to "Trump voter," but, most of the Russians/Greeks/Arabs I know have lived through hard times and come from more socially conservative countries, and they tend to vote that way themselves
I agree that many Orthodox tend be more conservative however not all. I consider myself fairly progressive and am Eastern Orthodox.
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Old 08-01-2018, 08:42 AM
 
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I agree that many Orthodox tend be more conservative however not all. I consider myself fairly progressive and am Eastern Orthodox.
Oh for sure. The norm just seems to be conservative. The only progressives I've meet have been in GOARCH, but, even then they tend to be more conservative than progressive Catholics I know
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