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Old 01-16-2019, 01:55 PM
 
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I have no idea what the op is complaining about, even with the light way she lives, $166 is ridiculously cheap for a 2400 sf home for water, gas and electric.

Duke, thank you for your thoughtful reply.
In my original post, I was expressing concern that my bill had increased so much. As the bills (all of them) increase, my salary doesn't. I'm a teacher, age north of 60, and my salary has been the same for the past ten years (less than $40K). At this point in my life I did not want to have to get a second job to be able to survive. I am frustrated, and that's what I was trying to express.

Thank you all for your ideas and comments.
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Old 01-16-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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LHS, having been through the travails of an aging parent I want to be sure you are aware of the pitfalls of having to "spend down to Medicaid" which can bankrupt a person. Issue is the $8k/month to pay the cost of long term care (LTC) in a skilled nursing facility (SNF). Our family was unaware that Medicaid would only pay for LTC in an SNF if their net worth was $2.5k or below, i.e., functionally bankrupt. Your mom needs to have her 'elder law' documents in order so the estate can be protected, and often the rules require this be done 5+ years in advance of the need for Medicaid assistance. Rules may vary a bit by state, but if this matter hasn't been tended to by her/you then by all means I urge your soonest attention to protect her assets and desires for care in her later years.
Thanks Mike for the info- my older brother is our Power of Attorney for the issues we anticipate with our folks.

Mom (age 84) is now in the big house alone since we had to place dad in a long-term care place last year when he went downhill (age 92).

They are lucky- dad was an MD and was actually the Medical Director for Mountain Bell, then US West, then eventually Qwest before they gave him a golden parachute to retire (they went to HMO's etc... and got rid of the medical staff in Denver in the '80's).

They are paying $10K a month for his care and I have heard that is an average cost and not out of line for 24/7 nursing care and a private room. They pay with their savings and insurance will not cover anything due to their assets.

Hard to believe you have to be broke to get any help with these costs- I guess if you are wealthy you SHOULD cover them yourselves.
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Riding a rock floating through space
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Duke, thank you for your thoughtful reply.
In my original post, I was expressing concern that my bill had increased so much. As the bills (all of them) increase, my salary doesn't. I'm a teacher, age north of 60, and my salary has been the same for the past ten years (less than $40K). At this point in my life I did not want to have to get a second job to be able to survive. I am frustrated, and that's what I was trying to express.

Thank you all for your ideas and comments.
$214/mo for gas, elec and water is really cheap in any part of the country, I'd suggest moving or downsizing but what you are paying is so cheap there's no reason. Like I said I paid an avg of $135/mo for just water when I lived in Castle Rock for 16 years. Everyone works hard for their money, everyone is tight these days - you aren't alone on that.
A single person living on $40k, if you are thinking of getting a second job just to survive you must be terrible with money. Many familes with multiple children live on that or less.

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Old 01-16-2019, 06:03 PM
 
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I live in a 2100 sf tri-level and keep the thermostat from 55 at night to 64 during the day when really cold. I Just tallied up last year's monthly bills and the average is $139. Highest month was Jan 2018 at $180. Maybe it doesn't pay to do the averaging thing.
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Old 01-16-2019, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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While Nawah's total bill is pretty reasonable to most of us, the core of the issue was a 25% increase after CSU announced a rate change of less than $10 a month. I think any of us would be a bit tweaked if our utilities went up 25% in a single month. So it is not necessarily about total expense, but percentage increases.

Nawah also dug into it and found out why it changed so drastically and has developed a plan that should be able to drop the immediate billings and create a new baseline to return to balanced billing in time.
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Old 01-19-2019, 01:43 AM
 
Location: 80904 West siiiiiide!
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Umm...I donít think itís expensive, and getting rid of that polluting eyesore would be great for the city.
Yea, all that steam is really polluting everything.....

Electricity rates will quadruple if it's replaced with a natural gas plant elsewhere, and that's being conservative. It's not an eyesore, it's part of downtown, get used to it.
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Old 01-20-2019, 07:56 PM
Status: "Modern day Salem" (set 28 days ago)
 
Location: Colorado
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Yea, all that steam is really polluting everything.....

Electricity rates will quadruple if it's replaced with a natural gas plant elsewhere, and that's being conservative. It's not an eyesore, it's part of downtown, get used to it.
Umm....it’s a coal burning power plant, not geothermal. And there’s nothing attractive about it.
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Old 01-21-2019, 01:56 AM
 
Location: 80904 West siiiiiide!
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Umm....itís a coal burning power plant, not geothermal. And thereís nothing attractive about it.
Yes, it is a coal burning plant, that's been recently retrofitted with Newman Technologies' emissions scrubbers, nearly none of what you can see is emissions from combustion of coal, it's all steam from the cooling towers that you see.

And who needs it to be "Attractive"? It's cheap, it's there, and it's what gives us some of the lowest electricity rates in the country. It is what it is. Typical Nimbyism. Everyone wants cheap everything, but not if they have to see it in their own backyard.

I've gone off topic, and I apologize for that.
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Old 01-22-2019, 06:12 AM
 
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OP, I would downsize. Life is about compromise and we can't have it all sometimes. ...and if your utilities are a burden, wait until that large home starts needing major maintenance and repairs. Talk about expensive! Just my opinion.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:40 AM
Status: "Modern day Salem" (set 28 days ago)
 
Location: Colorado
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Yes, it is a coal burning plant, that's been recently retrofitted with Newman Technologies' emissions scrubbers, nearly none of what you can see is emissions from combustion of coal, it's all steam from the cooling towers that you see.

And who needs it to be "Attractive"? It's cheap, it's there, and it's what gives us some of the lowest electricity rates in the country. It is what it is. Typical Nimbyism. Everyone wants cheap everything, but not if they have to see it in their own backyard.

I've gone off topic, and I apologize for that.
Thereís plenty of documentation that it has a negative impact on the air quality in the area.
Why would you assume Iím a nimby? I donít live anywhere near downtown. But for a town trying to become a city and draw people here, a power plant next to downtown, the park, and the Olympic museum is not a good idea.
I guess you only care about your wallet.
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