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Old 05-09-2009, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I you want a city of a million, then move to one somewhere else. We don't need any more of that crap in Colorado.
And if you don't like the growth and "over-crowdedness", Wyoming is nearly the same size as Colorado and with 1/10 the population. I'm sure you could find people on this forum who would even help you pack.
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Old 05-09-2009, 11:31 AM
 
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And if you don't like the growth and "over-crowdedness", Wyoming is nearly the same size as Colorado and with 1/10 the population. I'm sure you could find people on this forum who would even help you pack.
I lived in Wyoming for several years and I loved it. I moved back to Colorado for family considerations. If that circumstance changes, I very well may relocate back to Wyoming. I consider the fact that few Front Range Coloradans could stand to live in Wyoming as a big plus for that state.
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs,CO
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I you want a city of a million, then move to one somewhere else. We don't need any more of that crap in Colorado.
I don't really see this area reaching the million mark for a long time anyway, but its still experiencing population growth right now. For example all the troops moving here, I think its suppoused to be like 5,000 and they might already be moving here. If you factor in their families it will probably be more like 15,000 to 20,000 people. Most of them would probably live in the CO Springs area which would bring the population up to about 630,000 people. Then when you factor in people moving here for other reasons the metro area would probably gain another 10,000 people.
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Old 05-09-2009, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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Just me and a few others
JK. I like Mike's idea. Vote for Mike for President! Oh wait...the election is over.
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Old 05-09-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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And if you don't like the growth and "over-crowdedness", Wyoming is nearly the same size as Colorado and with 1/10 the population. I'm sure you could find people on this forum who would even help you pack.
There is also Montana, South and North Dakota, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas out side of Kansas City, even most of New Mexico. That is why I just laugh when people say we are overcrowded!
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Old 05-09-2009, 06:50 PM
 
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There is also Montana, South and North Dakota, Idaho, Iowa, Kansas out side of Kansas City, even most of New Mexico. That is why I just laugh when people say we are overcrowded!
You still don't get it. Though the two often occur concurrently, "overcrowded" is different from overpopulated. One could argue that, based on available resources and sustainability, Colorado is already overpopulated. A 5,000 square foot house with two people living in it isn't overcrowded, but if there is insufficient food there to feed the occupants and they are starving, it's overpopulated.
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Old 05-10-2009, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Limited growth (a 10 year plan)...annex the suburbs, restructure property taxes based on annexation, institute a new homebuilding moratorium in the city/annex of CS unless builders want to pay a $25K "growth" surcharge on every new home built. Revitalize downtown to include good blend of luxurious and affordable condo's/apartments...provide tax breaks to revitalize downtown. Lastly, invest more resources into tourism...advertising, marketing and nationwide campaigns; and industrial development...continue to recruit large high-tech companies to fill in the gaps on the edge of town, especially the eastern side. Lastly, offer local tax incentives to revitalize our poor neighborhoods...renovating foreclosed homes, leveling condemned buildings, cleaning up our south side and increased law enforcement in targeted areas to eradicate crime and especially drug problems. (not a huge problem now, but will be soon if we continue to do little or nothing)

Basically, putting the brakes on growth for a bit and increasing tourism revenues. It's time to stabilize local housing prices and invest more outside dollars into our economy and invest in our infrastructure...parks, commercial buildings, poor neighborhoods, downtown.

This will take about 10 years to see the fruits of those changes...after that, it's on to plan B!

In other words...it's time that we control growth instead of letting growth control us.

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Old 05-11-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Pueblo - Colorado's Second City
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You still don't get it. Though the two often occur concurrently, "overcrowded" is different from overpopulated. One could argue that, based on available resources and sustainability, Colorado is already overpopulated. A 5,000 square foot house with two people living in it isn't overcrowded, but if there is insufficient food there to feed the occupants and they are starving, it's overpopulated.
Colorado is not overpopulated as there is enough food for everyone in the state. I have never seen anyone in Colorado Springs post about going to a local Walmart or grocery store and not finding enough food for their family.

Now for you it might be overpopulated and that is ok. That is why in the United States we have thousands of cities of different sizes. Colorado Springs happens to be one of the larger ones but if that is not for you Colorado has many small towns that are great to live in.
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