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Old 07-13-2013, 08:17 AM
 
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I've been told north of Constitution. I guess opinions vary.

This is the guide I would use for new people. North of Constitution, unless you are going East of merksheffel. In which case, that neighborhood south of constitution is great.
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Old 07-13-2013, 08:26 AM
 
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Landscaping is one viable method for looking at it. To determine the quality of the neighborhood, it is important to determine if the people there give a ****. I had a few methods I used. I regularly looked at the paint on the houses. If several of them were a couple years past needing to be repainted, that was a bad sign. Some people will dislike this one, but it is useful. I also looked for air conditioning units sticking out of windows. It speaks to goals. People who really wanted an effective AC system and were invested in the house will have a house system installed. Renters will mount a window unit. People who don't want to spend money on their house will mount a window unit. They might have good reasons for having different priorities, or they might not. It's a concern that simply doesn't if I don't see the window units.

Ironically--I've seen those window units sticking out of houses that cost $300k. I just sigh and shake my head.

To learn about the area and the people living there, you can look at the local businesses. To know that an area is going downhill, I want to know how many of the following businesses it supports:
Tattoo parlors, pawn shops, pay check advance, liquor stores, smoke stores

One tattoo parlor is the max - that may just be a great artist. If the area is supporting two of them, it tells me something. Even one smoke store/pay check advance is a bad sign, but getting two of them means things are deteriorating quickly. Check advance places regularly charged around 500% interest. (Then were regulated back to around 160%, IIRC) Anyone going there is losing so much money they are unlikely to recover from the debt spiral.
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Old 07-13-2013, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Downtown Co Sps
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I'm not going to say window a/c units are attractive, but for our small house it does the trick. It's in the back yard unseen from the street because I wouldn't want to see it from the front either. Especially since we are people who have put time, money, and effort into our curb appeal.

Are you sure that all the units you're seeing are a/c's? A lot of swamp coolers are window mounted as well. A lot of people prefer them and that is a very common set up for them.
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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To learn about the area and the people living there, you can look at the local businesses. To know that an area is going downhill, I want to know how many of the following businesses it supports:
Tattoo parlors, pawn shops, pay check advance, liquor stores, smoke stores

One tattoo parlor is the max - that may just be a great artist. If the area is supporting two of them, it tells me something. Even one smoke store/pay check advance is a bad sign, but getting two of them means things are deteriorating quickly. Check advance places regularly charged around 500% interest. (Then were regulated back to around 160%, IIRC) Anyone going there is losing so much money they are unlikely to recover from the debt spiral.
I've also found this to be a useful barometer lurtsman.
Yesterday I looked at a rental house around Carefree and Austin Bluffs.
I passed many pawn shops, payday loan businesses, liquor stores.
Tried to keep an open mind but, sure 'nuff, when I reached the house I felt the neighborhood was too dingy.
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Old 07-15-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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Add to that list of business that color an area poorly: Rent to Own places. You know...Rent-A-Center and suchlike. They are just as bad as cash advance shops, IMO.

I had to laugh when I first went to the Walmart in Security...there is a wee little stripmall that housed the following all in a row:

A storefront ministry church of some sort
A liquor store
A tattoo shop.

So you can go git drunk and git a tattoo of JEEZUS! Woo!!

But again, it's important to know that in the Springs area in general, you can have a stretch of road that's all trashy but then five minutes away off a few convoluted side streets, find some EPIC nice neighborhoods and gorgeous homes. And the way traffic is set up, you often don't get the through traffic (vehicular or foot) from the bad areas to your good ones nearby. That's why I like the landscaping barometer.

Don't get me wrong though, if I saw a house with a gorgeous yard in a neighborhood of gorgeous yards and that strip of bar/liquor store/cash advance/smoke shop/tattoo parlor was like...2-3 blocks away or less? Nope. Forget it. If I'm close enough to hear drunks yelling and cop sirens, then I'm too close to that stuff.
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Old 07-15-2013, 04:04 PM
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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It can often be street by street as well. In the area I live in (Garden Ranch, near Austin Bluffs/Union/Academy) there are streets where people still have chain link fences, weeds, failed mulching/rock experiments, houses in need of paint, etc. Then the next street over, most of the houses are very well tended and nicely landscaped. I live on one of the nicer streets, I think.

The north Academy area in general is sorta like this. There are several pawn shops/rent-to-own/check cashing, etc. on Academy, it's true. But there are some really nice areas not far off Academy. The University Park area, for instance, with homes from $350,000 - $1,000,000. North Academy seems to be improving a bit since I've moved here, with lots of revitalization of old commercial structures. A few more strip malls really need to be updated, but I'm hoping...
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Old 01-10-2014, 03:29 PM
 
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Default Bad areas in CO Springs

Hi! I'm moving to CO Springs in a few weeks with my husband and 6month old. We're a young couple and just starting out, going out West to find better jobs. In our small town, our only option is fast food. We are looking at small houses and apartments and found one in our price range. Anyone familiar with 4thstreet area near UCCS?
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Old 01-10-2014, 03:34 PM
 
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Hi! I'm moving to CO Springs in a few weeks with my husband and 6month old. We're a young couple and just starting out, going out West to find better jobs. In our small town, our only option is fast food. We are looking at small houses and apartments and found one in our price range. Anyone familiar with 4thstreet area near UCCS?
The UCCS area is generally a good one. Can you give us a cross street for 4th St?
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:14 PM
 
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It's not a bad a spot, if it is east 4th Street (east of Hancock Ave) it's a little pocket of smallish 80's era homes on small lots called Country Village Place. The surrounding neighborhoods are Venetian Village and Cragmoor up the hill from it, both of those are areas with older, 50's and 60's homes with bigger lots. It's very central and convenient to UCCS. There is a small, older mobile home community when you first turn off of Hancock onto east 4th Street that is a bit run down looking (think older single wide trailers) but not terrible. We rented a tiny house (only 750 SF but it had a two car garage) east 4th Street before we purchased our first home, back in 1996. The neighbors were nice working class folks and we never had any problems or felt unsafe as a young couple there. Now granted that was some years ago but I have not heard anything about the area changing much since.

If the home is on 4th Street west of Hancock then it will be mostly smallish 60's era ranch homes, usually without basements, some are a little run down but not to the point of being scary.

There is a nice park up the hill from that area with a pool, Portal Park and good access to bike/walking trails. The Templeton Gap Trail goes along the creek and there is an underpass trail crossing that goes beneath Union Blvd. which makes it easy to walk or bike ride to the trails in Palmer Park without crossing a major street.
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Old 01-10-2014, 04:56 PM
 
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It's 1203 4th street. That's all I know.
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