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Old 07-16-2007, 10:40 AM
 
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Personally, I don't think it should be the federal government's obligation to bail people's sorry ****s out when they choose to build and live in an area absolutely prone to forest fires any more than it should be the fed's obligation to bail people out who knowingly build in designated flood plains or coastal areas subject to erosion. If people choose to build in those areas, they should accept the risk and not look to the rest of us to bail them out of their folly.
It couldn't be said any better than this! During my 16 yrs in Virginia Beach, year after year, certain beaches had to be replenished to protect the beachfront homes costing taxpayers millions of dollars, primarily to benefit a small number of wealthy idiots who feel entitled to receive government handouts.

blessings...Franco
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Old 07-16-2007, 02:35 PM
 
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yeah, check out this article on thwarting the beetle invasion..

Colorado town aims to thwart beetle invasion : National-World : Albuquerque Tribune (broken link)
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:03 PM
 
Location: The 719
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DO NOT WORRY ABOUT IT!!! It's a natural thing, and will ot harm Colorado's trees, they will grow back. The reason for it is that there was an overpopulation of trees in Colorado, so the beetle kicked in. No worries, it's "natures way."
NO! NO! WE NEED TO ALL WORRY! IT'S GLOBAL WARMING!! PLUS WE'VE GOT TO WATCH OUT FOR MANBEARPIG!!!!! I'M SERIAL!!! MANBEARPIG IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!!! I'M SERIAL.
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:34 PM
 
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McGowdog

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NO! NO! WE NEED TO ALL WORRY! IT'S GLOBAL WARMING!! PLUS WE'VE GOT TO WATCH OUT FOR MANBEARPIG!!!!! I'M SERIAL!!! MANBEARPIG IS COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COME ON PEOPLE!!!!!!!! I'M SERIAL.
I respectfully dis-agree. Worrying is not going to change the situation whatever the cause. What we need instead of worry is clear thinking and effective action.

regards...Franco
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:48 PM
 
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Oh. You're right! We must not worry. But what about MANBEARPIG?
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:49 PM
 
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I was just in Grand Lake and I can tell you from direct observation that 75-90% of the lodgepole pines in that area are already dead from the pine beetles. It's quite amazing to see. It's too late to do anything there.
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Old 07-16-2007, 08:37 PM
 
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There is a lot of evidence that the Utes would deliberately set fires to clear trees to make more grass and forage for the game they hunted. Quite often they would start those fires in late summer or early fall and the let the first snows put them out. In 1879, some of the most extensive forest fires in Colorado's history burned through southwestern Colorado. 1879 was an especially dry year, and many of the fires were thought to have been lightning caused. That said, some still wonder if the Utes--about to be removed to reservations--may have set some of the fires much earlier in the summer than was their typical practice just to spite the whites entering their former hunting areas. At any rate, there are still huge areas that are still devoid of trees from those fires in 1879. A good example is around Cumbres Pass on the Colorado-New Mexico border. A lot of people think that area is near timberline because of the scarcity of trees. It's not--it's a result of the 1879 fire and trees are re-colonizing the open meadows at a very slow rate. Actually, today the meadows are quite beautiful, but early photos of that area (around 1880-81) show massive numbers of burned trees and snags. Such is nature's way . . .
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:25 PM
 
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I read somewhere on the net that the largest living organism on the planet was a stand of Aspen Trees in Colorado. Maybe it was a national thing. Seems like the Brazilian rain forest would be a little larger.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:46 AM
 
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The Aspen tree is perhaps currently the largest. There's one cluster out in Utah that is a cluster of some 41 thousand trees living off of one root stock. I think it weighs about 12 million pounds, surpassing some giant mushroom in Oregon or Washington or wherever. What's important here folks is MANBEARPIG! I'm Serial!
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