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Old 04-09-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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With regard to earthquakes and fracking, read Ken Folletts novel, The Hammer Of Eden
he is a novel writer and also wrote 'they key to rebecca'. he and his politically active wife live in london and have a beach house in the carribean, in antigua.

i have no idea what he has to do with anything on this thread, but pretty much most of this thread is about leftist politics, but i've always like the name rebecca.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Fracking is the process of drilling a well and then pumping in toxic chemicals and water at high pressure to fracture the underlying rock.

It is done in the mining of natural gas, such as in Colorado. It is also being proposed for the mining of uranium at a site about 15 miles northeast of Ft. Collins, CO. This is also the location of the large underground aquifer that extends south to Denver. This is one of your major water supplies.

Mr. and Mrs. Sautner of Pennsylvania now have a large metal pipe extending up from their water well, after fracking was done in their neighborhood, to release the methane gas now present, which might otherwise blow up their home.

This is an NBC news account of this:
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I have read about this issue. Its awful . They certainly need to find a healthier safer way to get the natural gas out.
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Old 04-09-2014, 01:00 PM
 
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he is a novel writer and also wrote 'they key to rebecca'. he and his politically active wife live in london and have a beach house in the carribean, in antigua.

i have no idea what he has to do with anything on this thread, but pretty much most of this thread is about leftist politics, but i've always like the name rebecca.
Most of this website is leftists politics.
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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wow, from all the mis/disinformation on here about fracking and the heavy dose of left wing political hatred and propaganda, shouldn't this thread be in the political section?
Please elaborate.

Fact: The injection of fluids into the Earth's crust is known to cause earthquakes.

Fact: Fracking injects fluid into the earth's crust in order to fracture the crust in order to release the natural gas and petroleum from pockets inside of the bedrock.

Fact: the number of earthquakes in Oklahoma has increased dramatically since fracking operations began there.

Conclusion: Fracking is responsible for the increase in earthquakes in Oklahoma.

Where is left wing propaganda in this post?
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Wherabouts Unknown!
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milt14 wrote: i have no idea what he has to do with anything on this thread,

It shall remain a deep dark secret.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:21 AM
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Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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wow, from all the mis/disinformation on here about fracking and the heavy dose of left wing political hatred and propaganda, shouldn't this thread be in the political section?
You ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until you read some of the threads about water rights. You're new to the forums, so I'll give you a tip: All the really mean Coloradans like Idunn and Cosmic (and me) hang out down here. The nice folks post above in the Denver or Colorado Springs forums.

But down here we even believe the earth revolves around the sun and the universe is more than 6,000 years old and that germs cause disease. The fracking thing is just the tip of the iceberg.

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milt14 wrote: i have no idea what he has to do with anything on this thread,

It shall remain a deep dark secret.
Oh, you're just showing off your left wing political hatred again.
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Old 04-12-2014, 09:05 PM
 
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Oklahoma Swamped by Surge in Earthquakes Near Fracking, says an article in Bloomberg today.

Excerpt: "There have been more earthquakes strong enough to be felt in Oklahoma this year than in all of 2013, overwhelming state officials who are trying to determine if the temblors are linked to oil and natural gas production. The state last night experienced its 109th earthquake of a magnitude 3 or higher, matching the total for all of 2013, ..."
Earthquakes are common in Oklahoma. I lived right near Meers Fault and all the buildings there in southwest Oklahoma above a certain size had to be reinforced against earthquakes.

It's always funny to see the media act like all this stuff is somehow new and has never happened before.
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Old 04-13-2014, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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These advanced petroleum recovery techniques only put off the inevitable consumption of these unrenewable resources. these are finite and, unlike most metals, are not recoverable from scrap. Once used they are gone.

We should be concentrating our efforts on developing energy sources, such as nuclear fission with complete fuel recovery and recycling, that are effectively infinite on a human scale.
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:38 PM
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Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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We should be concentrating on getting a military force ready to invade Canada. I hear that northern Alberta will be lovely in 2050.
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Old 04-13-2014, 04:17 PM
 
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These advanced petroleum recovery techniques only put off the inevitable consumption of these unrenewable resources. these are finite and, unlike most metals, are not recoverable from scrap. Once used they are gone.

We should be concentrating our efforts on developing energy sources, such as nuclear fission with complete fuel recovery and recycling, that are effectively infinite on a human scale.
The bottom line is the energy/pollution/climate change is more of a population problem more than anything. It's the 1 thing that nobody admits rather or not you believe in global warming or not. The population took say all of human history to hit 1 billion in 1800, since then the population has since multiplied 8 times in 210 yrs. That's more ppl that need energy and the most abundant and cheapest form is coal. If 3rd world nations keep producing at the current rate it wont be long before the world hits 10 billion ever increasing the demand. Wind/Solar just aren't very efficient currently, the ROI isn't nearly high enough for private investors to be heavily involved and wind turbines are a huge POS. Their fatigue life is roughly 10-15 yrs before the turbines need to be replaced. Some form of crude is in a vast majority of all products MDC's use daily (plastic) trying to wean ourselves off crude is highly unlikely. As of today the greenest and most cost efficient form of energy is nuclear.
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