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Old 01-12-2010, 02:02 PM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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Hi Bongo! Did we know each other then?
Sopris was the town I was trying to think of, thanks!

Wonder how Debbie liked her trip to the area? Maybe I
missed something somewhere........


Debbie loved her trip!!!!!!!!! My hsband felt it would be a nice place to live. We would be retired so job market isn't a problem. I am not sure how the taxes compare to other states and haven't figure out property taxes in that area yet.
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Old 01-12-2010, 02:03 PM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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Suggest you DM that question to Jazzlover. He's very knowledgeable about land scams around there.

There is scams going in that area?
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Old 02-16-2010, 03:02 PM
 
Location: occupied east coast
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Default Trinidad, CO or Raton, NM

To be fair, I have just posted a nearly identical question on the New Mexico forum.

Currently, I am giving alot of thought to moving to the Trinidad Co area. Obviously, this area is quite close to Raton NM.

So, the question, Is there any benefits to living in Colorado as opposed to New Mexico?

As I will be new to the area, I come with a "clean slate" as to which area I will buy a house in.

Your opinions are most welcome.

I am sure other questions will pop up, but this is the first that comes to mind.

T.I.A.
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Old 02-16-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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Both states have their advantages and disadvantages. The politics of both tend to be dominated by their major metro areas, with rural areas and small towns getting the short end of the stick. Colorado has very low effective property tax rates on residential property, a middling income tax, fairly stiff vehicle registration fees, and a fairly high combination of local and state sales taxes. New Mexico has relatively cheap vehicle registration fees, middling residential property taxes and income taxes, and a lower nominal "sales" tax rate--but New Mexico's "sales" tax actually is a gross receipts tax that taxes services as well as goods. Colorado has a very restrictive constitutional limit on increases in government spending--good for controlling budgets, but very inflexible in rough economic times. Both states (like most) are facing serious issues of funding essential government services, though New Mexico is probably in a little better shape in that regard.

Both locales you mention are rotten places to relocate to if you have to rely on the local economy for an income--that is just about universally true in the rural areas of both states. Plan on bringing your money and your income with you.

You should be aware of the culture of both towns. They are predominantly Hispanic, with many of those folks tracing their roots back for many generations. As such, they can be pretty clannish toward outsiders, especially Anglos who are not familiar with the cultural history of the place. I've spent my whole life in this region, and communities like Trinidad and Raton are very much an acquired taste. People usually either love them or hate them. Quite honestly, the people who usually seem to get along best in them are the people who have lived in the region a long time and understand the culture. I know that comment will engender disagreeing responses, but it's my observation based on four decades-plus of experience.

Finally, living in rural New Mexico or Colorado is not the same as living in a rural area in the heavily populated East Coast--services may be non-existent locally or require lengthy drives to bigger areas. This should be a serious consideration for people with any kind of specialized medical requirements and the like. 200-400 mile roundtrips to see a medical specialist, for example, can get old very fast.

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Old 02-16-2010, 03:28 PM
 
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I'm sure this depends very much on your situation, your income, and your livelihood. Trinidad (and Raton) are both pretty far from the economic engines of their respective states. That's very significant problem, because there's virtually no hope of making a living in either place unless you're teleworking or something similar.

I will say that having just passed through both towns, Trinidad does seem to me to be more scenic both in terms of natural setting as well as the town itself, as compared to Raton. (Of course, there are many other towns in NM that are beautiful in their own right). I don't know too much about the area but from what I do know, I can't see much that Raton offers that Trinidad wouldn't, and more besides.

It is true that Colorado has lower income taxes (4.63% versus 5.3%), and doesn't have any gross receipts tax on small business that New Mexico does. The income tax difference is not all THAT different, but the GRT is definitely worth researching if you're self-employed. Since my parents have retired to NM, I've looked at following them down that way, but taxes and fewer opportunities have deterred me thus far.

I do like to visit NM, though!
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: the Pacific North West
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Default Trinidad

DH's job will be moving us to Trinidad. We won't have much time to look around before trying to find a house to rent or lease. We have a lease-purchase on our current house and won't get it sold (money for a down-payment) until November. We plan to buy at that point. For those who know the area, are there any parts of town, neighborhoods or nearby towns that we should focus on or avoid altogether? Thanks.

By the way, we are a conservative, God-loving, gun-toting, dog-owning, simple-living family with two wild, crazy boys (3-years-old and 4.5-years-old.)
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:18 AM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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DH's job will be moving us to Trinidad. We won't have much time to look around before trying to find a house to rent or lease. We have a lease-purchase on our current house and won't get it sold (money for a down-payment) until November. We plan to buy at that point. For those who know the area, are there any parts of town, neighborhoods or nearby towns that we should focus on or avoid altogether? Thanks.

By the way, we are a conservative, God-loving, gun-toting, dog-owning, simple-living family with two wild, crazy boys (3-years-old and 4.5-years-old.)
The town is pretty compact so I would think you could tell right away the good and bad neighborhoods. I though the home prices to be reasonable and I am from another reasonable area in Oklahoma. I'll be back in a few months as I enjoy Trindad for a week each year and then on to Chama NM for another 2 weeks. Our only vacation each year because we have a ranch. We may retire in Trinidad ourselves. Thre is lots of 35 acre parcels outside of Trinidad that seem reasonable in price too.
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Trinidad has a good web site that includes a forums section where you may be able to find answers to your questions. I've been on there recently sharing genealogy info. Here's the link:

Trinidadco.com is Trinidad Colorado's Community Webpage
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Old 05-07-2010, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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The town is pretty compact so I would think you could tell right away the good and bad neighborhoods. I though the home prices to be reasonable and I am from another reasonable area in Oklahoma. I'll be back in a few months as I enjoy Trindad for a week each year and then on to Chama NM for another 2 weeks. Our only vacation each year because we have a ranch. We may retire in Trinidad ourselves. Thre is lots of 35 acre parcels outside of Trinidad that seem reasonable in price too.
How much money are people asking for those 35 acre parcels?
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Old 05-07-2010, 03:09 PM
 
Location: OKLAHOMA
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I've seen some on the Santa Fe Trail with incredible views. The land is gated on the raton pass. I've look at 65K to 130K. There are 35 acres west of Trinidad on Highway of Legends with is a beautiful area for less and more. Google land for sale on the santa fe trail or say Weston, Co. is where there are lots of them.
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