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Old 04-02-2011, 06:11 PM
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Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Oh come on. That's such a small part of Trinidad's culture. It's not like the whole town is transsexual. I'd give negative reps for that one if I could.
You know, they SHOULD have negative reps! I've been too long away from that part of Colorado. Apparently, one of the doctors who did sex changes in Trinidad sold his practice to another doctor who moved it to California somewhere. So passes Trinidad's 15 minutes of fame - alas!

And CO.Native.SW., you are more than welcome to avail yourself of my share of the amenities of the Four Corners Marker area. For me, once I've touched four states all at once, I've touched them all. Hovenweep these days just makes me feel cranky. Once upon a time it was a lovely, nearly deserted National Monument where Great Horned Owls would pass silently down from the canyons at dusk. Now its just another national atrocity, jammed with travel trailors on their way to Bridges, Zion, and any other spot that allows the occupants to ruin both the air and the quiet with their generators as Bart Simpson capers on the HD tube within. Yep, just a jump from Montezuma Ave in downtown Cortez. Lucky me and everyone else around here who cares about the true back country. Mesa Verde is certainly worth the visit, but its sad to see how badly the fire scarred such major areas of it. Its just one more former National Monument that Ed Abbey could have written an eulogy for. I do, however, derive consolation from the nearness of the San Juans, at least. I'll admit to that.

There's no accounting for taste and if you admire Canon City and its prisons, have at it. I prefer the Arkansas River and the Sangre de Cristos. And the Wet Mountains. And Spanish Peaks. La Veta even.

Thanks for the warning re the proximity of C. Springs and Pueblo to Canon. And did you know that Denver and its ever-spreading environs is just a lick up the Interstate from the Springs? The Front Range is nothing but ever growing urban sprawl. I swear if I ever have to live out there again, I'll just keep going until I hit NYC. If you're gonna live in the city, LIVE in the CITY!

Now that I have probably managed to antagonize just about everyone in this thread, I'll just go study the Western half of my battered "big, exciting collection of Colorado 15 'quads," also known as The Colorado Gazettier (or however it's spelled) and sulk until the high passes melt.
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Old 04-02-2011, 06:49 PM
 
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And CO.Native.SW., you are more than welcome to avail yourself of my share of the amenities of the Four Corners Marker area. For me, once I've touched four states all at once, I've touched them all. Hovenweep these days just makes me feel cranky. Once upon a time it was a lovely, nearly deserted National Monument where Great Horned Owls would pass silently down from the canyons at dusk. Now its just another national atrocity, jammed with travel trailors on their way to Bridges, Zion, and any other spot that allows the occupants to ruin both the air and the quiet with their generators as Bart Simpson capers on the HD tube within. Yep, just a jump from Montezuma Ave in downtown Cortez. Lucky me and everyone else around here who cares about the true back country. Mesa Verde is certainly worth the visit, but its sad to see how badly the fire scarred such major areas of it. Its just one more former National Monument that Ed Abbey could have written an eulogy for. I do, however, derive consolation from the nearness of the San Juans, at least. I'll admit to that.

Love this part ^.

I just dug out a book that I got several years ago--it's titled "Two Guys, Four Corners." It was co-written by Don Imus (of radio talk show fame) and his brother, Fred Imus. They both grew up on a huge cattle ranch near Kingman, Arizona--and both have spent a lot of time in the Four Corners area. It it one of the better "coffee table" photograph books of the Four Corners region, with photos by the Imus's--with some of the most blunt, politically incorrect captioning and commentary you will ever find. Edward Abbey would've blushed.

As an example, a photo of a scene near Telluride in near darkness at dusk, captioned:

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It's really a toss-up: Are there more ***holes in Sedona, Arizona or Telluride, Colorado? Fifty-year-old yuppie morons with ponytails running pretentious little coffee, curio, and ski shops.

And the energy sucks. God, what an awful ****ing place.

And yet, five miles outta town . . . a great scene. Shot in the pouring rain. Black Angus cattle graze on an ebony field of grass in the foreground.
Or, this caption on a photo of the Cliff Palace at Mesa Verde National Park:

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The most remarkable aspect of this largest and best-preserved ruin in the Southwest is that some gangster real estate goon has not convinced the Indians to turn it into a ****ing casino.
I think the book is out of print, but is probably available on the used market.
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Old 04-02-2011, 08:41 PM
 
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Ed Abbey could have written an eulogy for.
I always liked the epitaph he chose for his headstone - "No Comment"



For you Ed Abbey fans check out Tom Russell's tribute below.


YouTube - The Ballad of Edward Abbey

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Old 04-02-2011, 09:02 PM
 
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Someone told me today that Canon City was recently chosen as one of the top ten places in the west to live (by American Cowboy magazine)
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Old 04-02-2011, 09:40 PM
 
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Someone told me today that Canon City was recently chosen as one of the top ten places in the west to live (by American Cowboy magazine)
A highly respected arbiter of fine living I'm sure. Wasn't Bakersfield, CA their number 2?
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Old 04-02-2011, 10:03 PM
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That book sounds great! I'll have to see if I can track a copy down on Amazon.com. My favorite Telluride atrocity story was told to me by a store owner just a few years after those 14 smoke jumpers died in the cruel fire storm/blow-up outside of Glenwood Springs.

I was wandering down Telluride's main drag in a bit of a daze after having spent the past two weeks camped on the San Miguel in the high mountains. My eye was drawn to an extravagent looking leather shop, displaying exotic skins and hides from just about every animal I could imagine (and some which I couldn't). I went in and gazed at the amazing assortment of boots, vests, coats, etc., and made some polite compliment to the owner who had been watching me like a hawk, since I belonged in that store about as much as a Kentucky moonshiner belongs in a shop filled with fine French wines.

However, my compliment worked it magic, and the man drew out a parcel wrapped in delicate paper from underneath the counter. When the paper was carefully removed, I saw it had been protecting a roll of brightly dyed turquoise alligator leather. "Bob Dylen," the leather guy whispered. "Hand dyed and hand tooled. Smoke Jumper Boots. $20,000! Been real popular lately."

I thought of the 14 crosses on that ridge outside of Glenwood. I thought of those kids, mostly members of a hotshot crew out of Oregon. I knew how much pride a "timber beast" or a fire fighter takes in his or her boots - White's is the brand and way back then I'm thinking a pair of Whites came to a $100.00 - a big chunk of money for a kid on only a seasonal appointment.

I wondered if Bob Dylan would put on his turquoise "smoke jumper boots" and walk that steep path and read those 14 names.

But it was just another day in Telluride.
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Old 04-02-2011, 10:06 PM
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Someone told me today that Canon City was recently chosen as one of the top ten places in the west to live (by American Cowboy magazine)

LOL! I wonder who got the payoff at American Cowboy?
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Old 04-02-2011, 10:26 PM
 
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FYI, Trinidad is no longer home to sex-change operations. The original doctor, who was hailed and beloved for helping so many people, passed away and a woman doctor took on the practice. Not too long ago, she left the area for the West Coast, citing the fact that the hospital did not support her field of specialization and was making it impossible for her to stay and succeed.

Like many places, Trinidad is in transition. New people are bringing in new energy, new stores and restaurants, etc. The Southern Colorado Repertory Theatre is putting on great shows, and of course, jazz lovers flock to the Trinidaddio Blues Festival each year. The A.R. Mitchell Museum and the Baca-Bloom House/State Museum, are developing wonderful programs and expanding their offerings.

Times have been tough, especially with the interminable reconstruction of I-25, but that's just about done now. Don't know about sheep, although I do know people in the area who raise llamas, goats, mules-- and of course, cattle and bison.

People from Trinidad still travel to Pueblo and Springs for some shopping and also for specialized medical services. Check it out! -- and while you're there, drive on out to tiny, quiet, safe Branson, too. Think of it as an outlying suburb of Trinidad.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/colorado/1224242-seeking-rural-se-ranch-town-w.html
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Old 04-02-2011, 10:29 PM
 
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I thought of the 14 crosses on that ridge outside of Glenwood. I thought of those kids, mostly members of a hotshot crew out of Oregon. I knew how much pride a "timber beast" or a fire fighter takes in his or her boots - White's is the brand and way back then I'm thinking a pair of Whites came to a $100.00 - a big chunk of money for a kid on only a seasonal appointment

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Old 04-03-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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Don't know about sheep, although I do know people in the area who raise llamas, goats, mules-- and of course, cattle and bison.
Bo, Uncle George and Aunt Guadalupe had several thousand sheep around there at one time. Kind of belied the myth of the cattleman/sheepman conflict as they raised both. Whatever made more money at the time. I'm sure if they'd had access to llamas though they'd have had them too.
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