University of Colorado vs Colorado State University (Denver, Fort Collins: credit, dorm)

[galtsgulch]

Originally Posted by jazzlover

The "urban legend" is that research universities are better schools for kids in the general student population to attend. That's usually crap. Typically, the average student never gets a whiff of one of those vaulted research professors--if those individuals teach at all. Also typically, most freshman and sophomore classes are taught predominantly by graduate assistants no matter what prof's name is on the door. It's usually not until one gets into a graduate program that a research school offers much more than any other college to its students. And, guess what?--any decent student from another college can get into those graduate schools. I graduated from a small liberal arts college with a BA--and I had no less than a half-dozen big well-respected universities falling all over me offering me graduate assistantships.

As far as CU's academic reputation, it's pretty much so-so compared to most major US universities. If you want a Colorado college with a high academic reputation nationally, you're looking at Denver University or the Colorado School of Mines. A guy I know who is a Mines grad pretty much summed Mines grads view of CU, "We called it Boulder College."

And I have heard quite a few old farts call your beloved alma mater "Worstern State." It's all relative.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by jazzlover

The "urban legend" is that research universities are better schools for kids in the general student population to attend. That's usually crap. Typically, the average student never gets a whiff of one of those vaulted research professors--if those individuals teach at all. Also typically, most freshman and sophomore classes are taught predominantly by graduate assistants no matter what prof's name is on the door. It's usually not until one gets into a graduate program that a research school offers much more than any other college to its students. And, guess what?--any decent student from another college can get into those graduate schools. I graduated from a small liberal arts college with a BA--and I had no less than a half-dozen big well-respected universities falling all over me offering me graduate assistantships.

As far as CU's academic reputation, it's pretty much so-so compared to most major US universities. If you want a Colorado college with a high academic reputation nationally, you're looking at Denver University or the Colorado School of Mines. A guy I know who is a Mines grad pretty much summed Mines grads view of CU, "We called it Boulder College."

"A rising tide lifts all boats." The quality of the graduate program will be reflected in the undergrad program as well.

I know the Mines people feel they are superior to CU-Boulder. That doesn't necessarily mean they are.

[Melanzana92]

Originally Posted by galtsgulch

And I have heard quite a few old farts call your beloved alma mater "Worstern State." It's all relative.

Or "Wasted State"... My friends always say that one. I know a couple people there actually. I've never been there myself, but it seems like a nice little school.

It is all relative, really. It happens everywhere too, and it's a chain. "The people at Metro State or ACC, etc. aren't good enough for a 4-year, the people at UNC aren't good enough for CSU/CU, the people at CU aren't good enough for Mines."

And it goes on and on.

[BlueWillowPlate]

Originally Posted by TonyVaz1009

It is all relative, really. It happens everywhere too...
"The people at Metro State or ACC, etc. aren't good enough for a 4-year

True that.
Here in Florida, the rivalry between U of FL and FSU is much the same as CU/CSU.

A student need not stay 4 years. A friend of mine changed majors, and when she did that, she transferred out of CSU and moved to CU-Boulder.

Or you can be like me and go to Metro State.

[iknowftbll]

Doesn't Metro State want to change its name? I heard that they wanted to change to "Denver State University" or something like that. Haven't they opened up some dorms as well nearby the campus? It seems they may be trying to convert into a more traditional style university instead of a large community college.

[suzco]

Originally Posted by iknowftbll

Doesn't Metro State want to change its name? I heard that they wanted to change to "Denver State University" or something like that. Haven't they opened up some dorms as well nearby the campus? It seems they may be trying to convert into a more traditional style university instead of a large community college.

CU Denver also shares that campus, and the dorms.

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by iknowftbll

Doesn't Metro State want to change its name? I heard that they wanted to change to "Denver State University" or something like that. Haven't they opened up some dorms as well nearby the campus? It seems they may be trying to convert into a more traditional style university instead of a large community college.

Metro has always (for the last 30 years anyway) been a 4 year college.

[noimagination]

the rankings are remarkably stable from year to year, thus evidently pretty accurate.

Stability doesn't imply accuracy. Not at all.

[Katarina Witt]

No one on the faculty of CSU has ever won a Nobel Prize.

CU faculty have won several.

[Hipchik]

They have indeed Four in fact: University of Colorado Nobel Prize Recipients | University of Colorado at Boulder