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Old 09-07-2011, 10:58 PM
 
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It would have to be a place that has a good school system, plenty of opportunities for decent paying jobs, low crime and teenage pregnancy rates, and not be too expensive to live.
There are almost no places in Colorado that will meet the last criteria without sacrificing one or all of the others. Hard reality. "Plenty of opportunities for decent-paying jobs" describes practically nowhere in Colorado (or most anywhere else) these days.
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Old 09-08-2011, 01:01 AM
 
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Hard reality. "Plenty of opportunities for decent-paying jobs" describes practically nowhere in Colorado (or most anywhere else) these days.
When you say "most" anywhere else, that suggests that there is an exception. Where might that be? North Dakota?
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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When you say "most" anywhere else, that suggests that there is an exception. Where might that be? North Dakota?
Here and there are little pockets that have a relatively healthy economy. Nebraska is one example--currently doing much better than most of the nation. Contrary to the population-growth loving fools' mantra on the Colorado forum, Nebraska is achieving a healthy economy with a relatively stable population and relatively little in-migration from elsewhere. It's done that by protecting agriculture and attracting and holding basic manufacturing industry. Also, unlike Colorado, Nebraska does not starve its public sector of revenue, but expects it to operate efficiently and provide and maintain services and infrastructure (like quality education) that make the place a good place to live. Fancy that. Of course, Nebraska is not most peoples' "dream place" like Colorado obviously is to many, but not is it likely to be overrnun by foolish masses who haven't figured out that one still has to have an income or a job to be able to live someplace like Colorado. Oh, and I find Nebraska's small to medium-sized communities to be generally far more socially balanced and healthy than most Colorado communities--especially compared to Colorado's largely socially dysfunctional resort towns.

You mention North Dakota. North Dakota, until recently, was losing population, but the remaining population--most in agriculture--was becoming more wealthy--mostly due to typical farm sizes increasing substantially. The oil boom in western North Dakota has sent that area into a growth tizzy. There are jobs there, but with severe housing shortages (with attendant price-gouging) and with a severely deteriorating social situation in the boom towns. A lot of the native North Dakotans (and I have first-hand knowledge of this as I have relatives in North Dakota) wish the oil boom had never happened.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:17 PM
 
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Other places doing relative well in overall recent job growth include TX, VA, TN, SD, KS, AR, FL and OK (at least in certain cities within the state). Good paying new jobs would take better data than I see immediately and the standard could vary from person to person. I was surprised to see a report of strong recent job growth in Flagstaff but I haven't confirmed this elsewhere and don't have any other details at the moment. It appears Billings has done relatively ok, growing a few jobs. Gillette has lost jobs but still has a pretty low unemployment rate.

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Old 09-08-2011, 11:33 PM
 
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It looks like the information I saw on Flagstaff was a bit dated and that the job situation there has slipped back some. Still better than US average on unemployment but not as strong as it appeared at the first source. That matches up better with what I expected.
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