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Old 08-30-2011, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Edgewater, CO
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To echo what jazzlover said, I never understood why we didn't raise the fuel tax instead of registration fees. At least with the fuel tax, we would have tourists help pay for the roads they share with the locals.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:13 AM
 
Location: 80904 West siiiiiide!
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That's kind of a double edged sword though. I just don't get what's so special about Colorado that they have to charge those kind of registration fees for automobiles. When I lived in Ohio, it was a flat $49.50 for EVERY truck, no matter the age, size, price, whatever.

Personal conveyances are NOT real estate, and should not be taxed as such.
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Old 08-30-2011, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Edgewater, CO
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$300 a year isn't outrageous for owning a car or truck. Consider the kind of damage a vehicle does to the roads, the cost of maintaining said roads, and the environmental impacts of the car.

$300 is damn cheap if you look at it that way.
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Old 08-30-2011, 01:00 PM
 
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To echo what jazzlover said, I never understood why we didn't raise the fuel tax instead of registration fees. At least with the fuel tax, we would have tourists help pay for the roads they share with the locals.
Well, one is a tax and the other is a fee. Due to the wonderfulness that is TABOR the legislature could have only thrown a fuel tax increase onto the ballot and hoped for the best. With raising the vehicle registration fees with FASTER the legislature guaranteed that the funding issue was addressed to a degree.

They acted within their very, very limited power to solve a funding issue.
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Old 08-31-2011, 06:21 AM
 
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To echo what jazzlover said, I never understood why we didn't raise the fuel tax instead of registration fees. At least with the fuel tax, we would have tourists help pay for the roads they share with the locals.
Another echo, here.

When I lived in PA, car registration was about $25/year. Gas is about 20 cents/gallon higher there.

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Well, one is a tax and the other is a fee.
If money's coming out of my pocket, it's a tax. Just like social security - I'll never see that money back...
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Edgewater, CO
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If money's coming out of my pocket, it's a tax. Just like social security - I'll never see that money back...
I don't think it is quite right to compare it to social security. You do see returns on the gas tax and registration fees.

FASTER was passed to raise registration fees. Currently, FASTER pays for replacement of bridges. Just about all the bridges that have been replaced or are in the middle of replacement in the last couple of years have been funded by those registration fees.

So you do see a return on that.

Whether or not you see a return on Social Security is debatable (and here isn't the proper place...)
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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If money's coming out of my pocket, it's a tax. Just like social security - I'll never see that money back...
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I don't think it is quite right to compare it to social security.... Whether or not you see a return on Social Security is debatable (and here isn't the proper place...)
I agree with TechMike, and add that attacking Social Security is a bad mode to get in to. SS may have its share of problems (like many things), but it's there for our benefit in the future. The more people speak against it, and associate negative feelings / words / sentiment to it, the more it poisons it and gets people to want to abolish it. Most would agree that that's a dangerous direction to go in. It would be better to suggest solutions and fixes, then damning and bashing it.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Centennial State
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;D FasTracks.
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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The price going up is weird - mine went way down altho I did have to pay $25 for an emissions test
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Old 08-31-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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If money's coming out of my pocket, it's a tax. Just like social security - I'll never see that money back...
In the strictest sense, yes. But, not in the legal sense for state law.
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