Do you regret your move to CO? (Denver, Boulder: environment, real estate)

[CAMom]

elemental even though I'm not from NY, that was very well put. Couldn't agree more.

[elemental]

Thank you.

Originally Posted by CAMom

elemental even though I'm not from NY, that was very well put. Couldn't agree more.

[south-to-west]

Originally Posted by .gif

well, i live in one of the denver suburbs, so i'm really just speaking of where i live... not necessarily all of colorado. if i lived somewhere else in colorado, i might enjoy it a little more.

what i don't like is the winter cold, the dryness, the desolation, the sprawl, the cookie-cutter neighborhoods with houses all crammed together, no large bodies of water, lack of culture, lack of diversity, the brown landscape and big sky. there are lots of nice places to go and things to do nearby... like hiking in the foothills or going mountain biking, or whatever. unfortunately, 90% of my time is spent near my home or near work, and it's just a very depressing area.

here is a good example of what i'm talking about. it's just miles and miles of brownish-yellow desolation.
http://www.sprawlaction.org/images/J..._ranch-txt.jpg
http://oldhome.udfcd.org/fhn2000/ima...reek_Ranch.jpg

Ouch. The problem isn't Colorado. Rather, the problem is that you live in the midst of "tract home hell"! You can't live in Highlands Ranch and then complain about lack of diversity and boredom. Hell, I can show you a cookie-cutter suburb like that in any metro. We got them here in Atlanta for a dime a dozen. I agree with you, communities like that are not for me. You should probably move to the city. Denver has a lot of cool urban neighborhoods like Uptown and Capitol Hill that have a lot of character. I will agree with you that diversity is lacking compared to other major cities, but I think that will be changing in the future as Denver's growth continues. Overall, I think Denver is a wonderful place with no shortage of things to do.

If you happen to relocate from Colorado to another metro area, make sure you pick an urban neighborhood rather than a suburban one if you want to gauge the true feel of a city.

[justsomeguy]

Originally Posted by south-to-west

Ouch. The problem isn't Colorado. Rather, the problem is that you live in the midst of "tract home hell"! You can't live in Highlands Ranch and then complain about lack of diversity and boredom. Hell, I can show you a cookie-cutter suburb like that in any metro. We got them here in Atlanta for a dime a dozen. I agree with you, communities like that are not for me. You should probably move to the city. Denver has a lot of cool urban neighborhoods like Uptown and Capitol Hill that have a lot of character. I will agree with you that diversity is lacking compared to other major cities, but I think that will be changing in the future as Denver's growth continues. Overall, I think Denver is a wonderful place with no shortage of things to do.

If you happen to relocate from Colorado to another metro area, make sure you pick an urban neighborhood rather than a suburban one if you want to gauge the true feel of a city.

Why is everyone so interested in "diversity" in a city? What does that mean, that it has a lot of different races of people? Why is that supposed to be a good thing? Americans are way too focused on racial issues for diversity to be a good thing. Is diversity secret code for "not all white people" ? If you are a minority, this could be a good thing, but if you are white, why would you be placing diversity on such a lofty pedestal? I'm not trying to be racist, but if you are white why would you want to live around a bunch of minorities? Just like if you are black or hispanic, you probably would rather live around blacks and hispanics, than a bunch of white people, right? I don't understand people who want a lot of so-called "diversity" in their city. Are these the same people who are complaining about transplants from California, Texas, and the East Coast? Why are you complaining, they are bringing "diversity"!

[south-to-west]

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Why is everyone so interested in "diversity" in a city? What does that mean, that it has a lot of different races of people? Why is that supposed to be a good thing? Americans are way too focused on racial issues for diversity to be a good thing. Is diversity secret code for "not all white people" ? If you are a minority, this could be a good thing, but if you are white, why would you be placing diversity on such a lofty pedestal? I'm not trying to be racist, but if you are white why would you want to live around a bunch of minorities? Just like if you are black or hispanic, you probably would rather live around blacks and hispanics, than a bunch of white people, right? I don't understand people who want a lot of so-called "diversity" in their city. Are these the same people who are complaining about transplants from California, Texas, and the East Coast? Why are you complaining, they are bringing "diversity"!

I like diversity because I like interacting with people of different backgrounds and learning something new. I feel that if a place is more diverse, the less likely people will completely isolate themselves and develop unfounded prejudices and stereotypes.

I'm black and I would hate to live in an all-black neighborhood. Where's the fun in that? It's fun to change it up a little in life. It's fun to live a little. A part of me feels that people are more likely to go through mid-life crises when they put themselves in a box. My life is too damn short to be in a homogeneous environment.

[NewAgeRedneck]

I'm mostly in favor of diversity, but I'm inclined to agree with justsomeguy that some people go overboard singing it's praises. Like south-to-west says, if a place is more diverse, the less likely people will completely isolate themselves and develop unfounded prejudices and stereotypes. On the other hand, it can lead to confusion and the loss of one's core values and attitudes.

blessings...Franco

[.gif]

Originally Posted by south-to-west

I like diversity because I like interacting with people of different backgrounds and learning something new.

yes, this is how i feel. i am of mixed race and it's a little disconcerting when you are surrounded by nothing but white people all the time. but diversity is low on my list of reasons to move.

the other things matter more to me, particularly the lack of greenery here. i want to look up and see trees, not sky. that's just me. i grew up in the southeast where the entire landscape is covered in trees. i also miss the ocean, rivers, lakes, humidity, bugs, warm weather, etc.

i'm stuck here for a while, but i look forward to the day when i can move. i just have to convince the wife.

[Jonna]

Originally Posted by .gif

yes, this is how i feel. i am of mixed race and it's a little disconcerting when you are surrounded by nothing but white people all the time. but diversity is low on my list of reasons to move.

the other things matter more to me, particularly the lack of greenery here. i want to look up and see trees, not sky. that's just me. i grew up in the southeast where the entire landscape is covered in trees. i also miss the ocean, rivers, lakes, humidity, bugs, warm weather, etc.

i'm stuck here for a while, but i look forward to the day when i can move. i just have to convince the wife.

You don't know misery until you lived in Dallas. Complain all you want, but believe me it can get worse.

I do know how you feel being stuck in a place you hate. I get to escape soon, i don't know what job you have in Colorado but we decided after 7 years was too much in Texas and just decided to move.

[corduroyboy]

Originally Posted by gpraceman

Take those same pictures right now and it would be far greener. The first part of summer was pretty dry. Not so much the last few weeks. Also, CO is a semi-arid state. It is not reasonable to expect that it will always be lush and green. This is not the North East or the North West.

If you are not happy where you are, then maybe it is time to move somewhere else.

Just how long does it stay green in Colorado? I'm from the Northeast and loved the lush greenery. I've been living in California for the past 5 years and can say I've seen enough of the brown. My job will more than likely be transferring me to our Denver office come January. So I'd like to know about the green. I do miss it. And does Colorado have a lot of it? I visited Denver in February this year and saw what was natural to me, brown in the winter.

[canyontiger2]

Originally Posted by corduroyboy

Just how long does it stay green in Colorado? I'm from the Northeast and loved the lush greenery. I've been living in California for the past 5 years and can say I've seen enough of the brown. My job will more than likely be transferring me to our Denver office come January. So I'd like to know about the green. I do miss it. And does Colorado have a lot of it? I visited Denver in February this year and saw what was natural to me, brown in the winter.

Corduroyboy this is not meant for you exactly but for all that ask and complain about the brown etc.

I have said it over and over but I guess it needs repeating. Colorado is an semi-arrid state.This year we are more humid that the norm at least where I live. At this time humidity usually is about 30% not the 50 -60% we are at this time. Personally I hate heat and humidity, it is rough on me.--- We have 4 seasons. Things are not green when there is a real winter and fall. Things are not green when a great deal of the state is prarie and semi- arrid. It has been this way in this area for a very long time when white man first saw the plains he thought they uninhabitable. If you moved here thinking it was all mountains etc. you did not do your homework. We have forests and trees where there is water not jungles. But if you like a change in weather and beautiful blue skies and able to breath clean air, you have to stay away from large cities and industries. We do not have many large cities so then people complain about jobs. Someone is always going to think it is greener on the other side of the fence. So fine, jump the fence. Myself, I like the mountains and being close to them, I also do not like the plains but that is my state and I love it and would not trade. Each to his own.