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Old 10-07-2011, 10:41 AM
 
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or these of CB ski area.
The first one is looking own Upper Joker Vile.
The second one is looking up upper International.
Lastly a old lmc3700 on the triangle, just below the Twister lift's top terminal above upper Joker Vile.
Notice all the trees even up on the ski area.

Maybe now he'll believe us when we tell him there are trees in CB.
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:22 PM
 
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I lived in Crested Butte for a short time and loved it! Wish I could have stayed longer. Tough choice between CB and Telluride but I'd choose CB.

PS I am chuckling over the "devoid of trees" line too...
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:09 PM
 
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If you want a big city then go someplace else.
Vail/breck is like Denver with a ski area thrown in.
They lack local culture.
I found Vail had tons of local culture, in the winter and summer there were things going on almost every single day. You'd never lack for anything to do there.
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Old 10-07-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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I lived in Crested Butte for a short time and loved it! Wish I could have stayed longer. Tough choice between CB and Telluride but I'd choose CB.

PS I am chuckling over the "devoid of trees" line too...
CB is pretty darn devoid of trees and greenery, especially when you compare it to the much lusher Vail. Look at the aerial photos I put up.
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Bend, OR
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CB is pretty darn devoid of trees and greenery, especially when you compare it to the much lusher Vail. Look at the aerial photos I put up.
I'm really not sure why you think this? I've spent time in both areas and they both have plenty of trees! Here's a link to the City-Data Crested Butte photo album: http://www.city-data.com/album/album...-Colorado.html

In fact, I actually think the trees around Crested Butte are much more beautiful than Vail. I love the big aspens you find in Western Colorado. The lodgepole trees around Vail are almost all dead right now and the aspen are tiny.

Both towns are absolutely beautiful, but very different in terms of culture. Vail is a true all-seasons resort, very touristy, and therefore has more events, etc. going on throughout the year. Vail has a lot of part time residents. Crested Butte, on the other hand, is off the beaten path, and less of a tourist trap. Most people that live in Crested Butte (or Gunnison a little further south), live there year round.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:48 PM
 
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The lodgepole trees around Vail are almost all dead right now and the aspen are tiny.
I'm not sure why you'd say this ... there are isolated stands of beetle kill trees in the Vail Valley as in other places in the high country, but there's a lot of healthy forests in Vail, too.

"aspen are tiny" compared to what? There's a lot of long term sizable aspen stands in the Vail area, too.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:47 PM
 
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I'm not sure why you'd say this ... there are isolated stands of beetle kill trees in the Vail Valley as in other places in the high country, but there's a lot of healthy forests in Vail, too.

"aspen are tiny" compared to what? There's a lot of long term sizable aspen stands in the Vail area, too.
I'm definitely exaggerating a bit, but the forests in Colorado are not healthy right now (and I feel as though I can say this considering I worked for the Forest Service for 5 years and have a Forestry degree). The last time I drove through the Vail Valley, which was 3 years ago, the hillsides were covered with red, dying trees. Talk to any Forester in the state right now and they will all tell you forest conditions are bad, especially lodgepole forests. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Actually, you are probably right about the aspen in the Vail valley. I guess I was thinking more about the Leadville/Fairplay area. Those aspen are definitely small compared with the ones on the western slope of Colorado. By tiny, I don't mean the size of the stand, but rather the height. Sorry I didn't specify. The tall aspen along the Grand Mesa and further south are truly spectacular, especially this time of year.
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Old 10-10-2011, 10:42 PM
 
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I'm definitely exaggerating a bit, but the forests in Colorado are not healthy right now (and I feel as though I can say this considering I worked for the Forest Service for 5 years and have a Forestry degree). The last time I drove through the Vail Valley, which was 3 years ago, the hillsides were covered with red, dying trees. Talk to any Forester in the state right now and they will all tell you forest conditions are bad, especially lodgepole forests. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Actually, you are probably right about the aspen in the Vail valley. I guess I was thinking more about the Leadville/Fairplay area. Those aspen are definitely small compared with the ones on the western slope of Colorado. By tiny, I don't mean the size of the stand, but rather the height. Sorry I didn't specify. The tall aspen along the Grand Mesa and further south are truly spectacular, especially this time of year.
I get to fly over much of Colorado's mtn country in my travels ... and there are definitely areas that are completely devastated by the beetle kill. Thousands of acres of standing firewood at this point, and it's going to be quite the conflagration when the day arrives that a lightning strike torches these areas.

But the Vail Valley area has been spared much of that level of infestation. I think it's due to receiving a bit more moisture than other areas through the past drought years, which has kept the trees healthier and more able to resist the beetles.

The higher altitude aspens in Leadville ... on much rockier soils than found in the Vail Valley ... tend not to grow as well as the Vail side of the ridge. I've got aspens in my yard in East Vail that have trunks 4"-5" in diameter, and there's quite a stand of them up the hillside from there. They're pretty tall ...
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Old 10-11-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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I get to fly over much of Colorado's mtn country in my travels ... and there are definitely areas that are completely devastated by the beetle kill. Thousands of acres of standing firewood at this point, and it's going to be quite the conflagration when the day arrives that a lightning strike torches these areas.

But the Vail Valley area has been spared much of that level of infestation. I think it's due to receiving a bit more moisture than other areas through the past drought years, which has kept the trees healthier and more able to resist the beetles.

The higher altitude aspens in Leadville ... on much rockier soils than found in the Vail Valley ... tend not to grow as well as the Vail side of the ridge. I've got aspens in my yard in East Vail that have trunks 4"-5" in diameter, and there's quite a stand of them up the hillside from there. They're pretty tall ...
I'm glad to hear that the Vail Valley appears to have been spared from the beetle devastation. I do know that driving through on I-70, it appears that most of the lodgepole are dead. I remember my college professors talking about the Vail Valley back in 1996. They were very concerned the entire area would be killed within the next 10 years. Hopefully it's been managed more aggressively than Summit Co, Lake Co, Chaffee Co. and others. I worked in the Arkansas Valley for a while and that area was hit incredibly hard.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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I'm really not sure why you think this?
The feeling I get when I'm in CB is open, exposed. I've hiked around there and it's out in the open. Whereas in Vail, for example, I can hike right in town and be in the woods. Look at the aerial photos I posted: you can clearly see the lack of shrubbery there in the town of CB.
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