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Old 12-04-2011, 05:42 PM
 
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There's plenty of money for all that. It's just locked up with the 1% where you can't get to it.
Anybody can get to it, you just have to be creative enough, educated enough and put the energy into the right places. I've known hundreds of millionaires and billionaires and almost none of them had it handed to them. They have extremely high levels of motivation few people have.

Someone ran the numbers recently and even if you called on everyone making a million a year in income, they would have to pay 6 million a year in tax and that is just to erase the deficit. Obviously those numbers don't add up.

It's not a revenue problem it's a spending problem.

So the money isn't with those people, it's all been blown and in the hands around the world of all the treasury bond holders.
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Older people have been whining about that all the way back to Plato's time. I'm sure those kids you accuse of being lazy will be saying the same thing a few decades from now.
Exactly! I used to have the Plato quote bookmarked, but my computer crashed and I haven't restored that bookmark yet.
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Old 12-04-2011, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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My question is, why would you live in a town where they tell you what to do?I'm 60 with 3 kids in there 20's and I still go out and move the snow,but no one tells me I have to.
In most cities, it's a public safety issue. Kids will be walking to the school buses tomorrow morning.
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Old 12-04-2011, 10:18 PM
 
Location: Canon City, Colorado
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I'm just Shocked that Jazz lives in a neighborhood with sidewalks!!!!! Seriously,.... I always figured him to be on a little bit of acreage, kinda out in the middle of nowhere watching all the "yayhoos" buying up the land around him building mcmansions.....Not on a "normal" block or cement jungle type of place...ya know??!! Just doesn't seem right!!!
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:42 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Work in general is pretty lacking it seems like

For example, it's going to take RTD 6 years in total to add a line on the lightrail from Denver to the airport, maybe 20-30 miles?

The transcontinental railroad was built in 6 years with 1860s equipment
(See other threads regarding environmental impact studies, excessive bureaucracy and automobile and oil company lobbying to see why train lines have become so difficult and time consuming to build.)
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Old 12-05-2011, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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I don't think it's particularly fair to blanket "young people these days" with an attribute of laziness because of some anecdotal evidence one morning. I could cite evidence of similar standing to show how these "crochety old people these days" have nothing better to do than griping and complaining is all they ever do anymore! They should get a hobby or something cuz I'M NOT ON YOUR LAWN!

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Old 12-05-2011, 04:59 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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The 20 to 40-somethings in the neighborhood--many with perfectly healthy teenage children--were nowhere to be seen. NOT ONE. Most every time it snows, they either just wait for it to melt off, or until they get ticketed by the city for not clearing their walks. They are just too damned lazy
Generalize much? That's rhetorical, by the way.

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A friend who works for the city Public Works Dept. confirms exactly what I've described as what he sees city-wide.
I see. Another one of those convenient friends who happens to be precisely in the job and position to support your Internet Argument (TM).

5,029,196 People Now Live in Colorado :

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You sure know a bizarrely large number of people, then.

They also all happen to have the exact same opinions as you on on whatever argument you happen to be making at the time. You must have a lot of spare time to talk to them all on such a wide range of topics.

I call shenanigans.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Settle down Jazz. You do everything you can to sound like a crotchedy old scrooge.

I am in my 30's with two young children and there we were today at sunrise today shoveling the sidewalk - and it is a VERY long stretch of sidewalk in front of my house!

Did I mention i have a two-year-old? How fun is that!

I noticed that the crotchedy old rich man next door (business owner) neglected to shovel his sidewalk. Though he did manage to glare at me & my kids on his way into work. This after we spent four hours on Saturday limbing up the trees on the property line because he complained that they were touching his cars. Did he even say thank you? Of course not.

Grumpy old men!!!
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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.... Grumpy old men!!!
Not me!

Don't worry, be happy.
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Old 12-05-2011, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Not me!

Don't worry, be happy.
I know, you're a sweetie.
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