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View Poll Results: Should Colorado Legalize Marijuana?
Yes 164 76.64%
No. 50 23.36%
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Marijuana isn't a drug it's an herb.
It's an organic drug when smoked/ingested for its mind-altering effects. As is peyote and coca.

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I can't believe you've seen so much destruction of society and family because of marijuana. Only marijuana? Not Meth and marijuana, or cocaine and marijuana, or alcohol and marijuana? Hard to believe....and I'm your age...almost.
All of the above...but MJ abuse is a common theme often associated with the others.
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Bob, since you've yet to respond to any of my posts, I'll venture to guess that you can't answer me honestly and say you have not taken or don't take any prescription drugs. Since you use those, you must be a loser by your reasoning.
You venture wrongly.

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Use does not equal abuse. I use a myriad of "drugs," caffeine and alcohol are my big ones, but I wouldn't say I abuse any of them.
Committing a felony or engaging in subterfuge to enable usage of a drug is evidence of abuse. That includes buying drugs illegally on the street, sneaking drinks or otherwise taking action to avoid detection, and healthy people feigning chronic pain to get a prescription for MJ and/or opiate pain relievers.
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Southern NC
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You venture wrongly.



Committing a felony or engaging in subterfuge to enable usage of a drug is evidence of abuse. That includes buying drugs illegally on the street, sneaking drinks or otherwise taking action to avoid detection, and healthy people feigning chronic pain to get a prescription for MJ and/or opiate pain relievers.
So when it's legalized, will you change your stance?
I would be more concerned with the legal drugs...alcohol and cigarettes.
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Old 01-23-2012, 05:49 AM
 
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You venture wrongly.



Committing a felony or engaging in subterfuge to enable usage of a drug is evidence of abuse. That includes buying drugs illegally on the street, sneaking drinks or otherwise taking action to avoid detection, and healthy people feigning chronic pain to get a prescription for MJ and/or opiate pain relievers.
Choosing to bypass immoral and illogical laws in order to live by ones own deductions is what it means to be a man, and also an American.

You must be the other guy.

What a horrid and dangerously totalitarian-esque line of reasoning, Bob. The logistical skills used here are very frightening and thankfully, not popular.

If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so..

- Thomas Jefferson


Bob, if steak were illegal I'd be sneaking an ice-filled cooler to my farmer buddies house after the slaughter regularly. I enjoy steak and I hope it's always part of my weekly tradition, legal or not. Using your logistical skills and moral guidelines, my would-be steak-smuggling is evidence of my deep-seeded beef addiction.

Or maybe I just like steak once and a while. Just like pot.

You just cannot seem to intellectually or emotionally accept the fact that some people find pleasure in things you don't like or understand. You're just going to grow up one day and make peace with that, Bob.

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Old 01-23-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Noblesville, IN
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That's good to hear.
It's OK that you don't know why.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:32 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Choosing to bypass immoral and illogical laws in order to live by ones own deductions is what it means to be a man, and also an American.
Choosing to bypass immoral and illogical laws in order to live by ones own deductions is what it means to be a criminal, and also a felon.

There, I fixed it for ya.

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What a horrid and dangerously totalitarian-esque line of reasoning, Bob. The logistical skills used here are very frightening and thankfully, not popular.
Logistical skills? Or did you mean logical skills? Maybe you should stick to single-syllable words or perhaps stop using, eh?

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Bob, if steak were illegal I'd be sneaking an ice-filled cooler to my farmer buddies house after the slaughter regularly.
But steak's not illegal, maybe because it's not a mind-altering drug. Moot friggin' point.

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You just cannot seem to intellectually or emotionally accept the fact that some people find pleasure in things you don't like or understand. You're just going to grow up one day and make peace with that, Bob.
Yeah, I also can't intellectually and emotionally accept the fact that some people like having sex with little kids...something I do not like and do not understand. As with recreational drug abuse, I am still quite confident that it's WRONG. And no, I will never make peace with either.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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It's OK that you don't know why.
I don't CARE. Big difference.
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Old 01-23-2012, 11:48 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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So when it's legalized, will you change your stance?
I would be more concerned with the legal drugs...alcohol and cigarettes.
I will always look down my nose at recreational drug users as losers on a self-charted path into the abyss...but if it's legalized I will wish them bon voyage and then turn my back on them.
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Old 01-24-2012, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Northern MN
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Choosing to bypass immoral and illogical laws in order to live by ones own deductions is what it means to be a criminal, and also a felon.
There, I fixed it for ya.

A step to far.

Pot in many states has been DEcriminalized for a long time now.
CO, LAW.
Penalties for Marijuana Use and Possession in Colorado:

Possession of 1 oz or less
Petty Offense
The penalty is a $100 fine.

Penalties for Growing, Selling and Trafficking Marijuana:

Sale or Cultivation:
Less than 1 oz
Petty Offense
The Penalty is a fine of $100



In many states an adult 21years or older can posses a 1oz if it is in their home and for personal use with out a medical card. There is no jail time associated with this, the only thing that could happen is a fine.


No jail= it's not a criminal offense.


It's O.K. everyone Bob probably doesn't think his beer and smokes are recreational drugs ether.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:15 AM
 
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Before I delve on my input I'll first say that I've never touched the stuff; I don't know if all of the wild things I've heard about what happens to pot users is true or not. I've known quite a few smokers in my life and they seem fine considering so; my uncle smokes it quite a bit and is still a productive member of society. My cousin and several of my friends and brothers' friends also seem to be fine although they're not major go-getters or anything.

My biggest problem with pot is whether or not it is indeed laced with other drugs (as I've heard). If that was the case I'd have more of a problem with it but I have never found out and I don't lose sleep wondering.

A 1996 Reader's Digest article "But It's Only Pot" tells a story about a teenaged girl in Chicago who'd gotten involved in smoking pot. It became a habit for her, and she started using it before she had to do anything. The article went into the girl's subsequent experimenting of other drugs as well, some of which ended up being more dangerous for her than pot ever was.

My issue with the article was of how it seemed to argue the point that smoking pot automatically meant that someone who does so will graduate to experimenting with more dangerous drugs, which I don't believe is necessarily true. That was the stance the article seemed to point to as they dialogued this girl's downward spiral. What they hardly mentioned was that it was the girl's friends who were likely the problem; they got her into smoking pot and they got her into experimenting with other drugs.

Luckily her parents recognized that was at least part of the problem as they took her away for awhile to "get her away from her friends" after a stint which the girl had smoked pot, used cocaine and drank herself nearly to death.
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