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Old 01-11-2012, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Hi guys!!

I will be driving from Fountain to Dillon for the first time in my Dodge magnum rear drive tonight. I know parts of Denver and all of Summit County has gotten a bit of snow today too. I also have OK snow tires.

My question is, when you get near the tunnel, I've heard traffic can be stop and go, with the amount of snow today. Is it hard to get moving again after coming to a full stop? I am unsure how much of an incline it is before the tunnel. I don't have a set of chains nor are they recommended on this car.

Im planing on bringing a small shovel and sand incase it happens, hopefully its melted by tonight.

I am typing this from my phone so im sorry if the formatting is running together, thanks.

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Old 01-11-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Here's a GREAT idea. While towing stuck drivers out of the Monarch parking lot one day I pulled an asphalt shingle out of the back of the truck.
Works better than cat litter and other nonsense.
I encourage all on this forum to keep one 4 foot shingle in your trunk. You'll be amazed how well it works.
RP
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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That is a great and cheap idea, thanks. Anyone going to the Ullr parade?
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:18 PM
 
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Wink A case for chains & momentum

You should carry chains.

Yes, seldom an issue in Colorado, save on commercial trucks. But when things get gnarly there is nothing like good old-fashioned chains to insure you actually arrive where going. They are of course a pain to put on and use, but a better alternative than being stuck somewhere on or beside a snow-encrusted road. If your 'winter' tires will not accommodate chains, then a good question how narrow or winterized they are.

If not some version of four-wheel-drive, then front-wheel-drive is preferable in snow to anything with rear-wheel-drive. But one possible exception to this is when on an incline. At such point gravity tends to load the rear wheels, versus the front, so traction actually better with rear-wheel-drive. Countervailing this is that the steeper the grade the harder it always is to get started from a dead stop. With any luck, you'll be able to keep some momentum in moving forward, which is always preferable. But if necessary from a dead stop, then of course feather the gas to get a little forward momentum started again with as little brute force and wheel spin as possible.

So, to answer the question succinctly, well, it depends. But as probably already discovered, never as simple getting up to speed on snow as on dry pavement, with any incline making it all the harder. Keep moving, if possible.

Oh, and carry chains. Because then, if worse coming to worst, one will still have a way of not being stuck. Unless rolled over in a snow bank, which is another matter.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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The asphalt single is a great idea.

When I was put at the tunnel in May there was snow and it was a mess. A rear wheel drive BMW a few cars ahead spun out and landed in the median. A front wheel drive Honda Civic in front of me got stuck. I'd be more concerned about losing control while moving than getting stuck not being able to move. Getting stuck is usually cheaper. Just take it easy. Don't panic, get overconfident, or be in a hurry.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:33 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Rear wheel drive is a serious bummer on the snow and ice imo. It's sort of fun for driving around the neighborhood and stuff... but in I-70 traffic... I'd avoid it.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:36 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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I saw a ton of cars stuck on I-70, all were RWD

As far as the grade, I think the grade on Floyd Hill is more than the tunnel
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: The 719
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A ton of cars would be like half of my car.

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Old 01-11-2012, 10:07 PM
 
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Hi guys!!

I will be driving from Fountain to Dillon for the first time in my Dodge magnum rear drive tonight. I know parts of Denver and all of Summit County has gotten a bit of snow today too. I also have OK snow tires.

My question is, when you get near the tunnel, I've heard traffic can be stop and go, with the amount of snow today. Is it hard to get moving again after coming to a full stop? I am unsure how much of an incline it is before the tunnel. I don't have a set of chains nor are they recommended on this car.

Im planing on bringing a small shovel and sand incase it happens, hopefully its melted by tonight.

I am typing this from my phone so im sorry if the formatting is running together, thanks.
Yep it's an incline and trucks and rear wheel drive cars get caught out all the time when the tunnel gets closed temporarily or when traffic is bad. Snow tires are a big help. It's usually people on crappy bald tires or all seasons that have a hard time and then they jam up traffic.

Kitty litter and a small shovel is a help if you truly get stuck.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:09 AM
 
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Rear wheel drive + lack of winter driving experience + slippery road = real trouble. Period. By the way, the Colorado State Troopers use RWD Magnums. The troopers are specifically trained in winter driving techniques, the cars have full traction control, and I believe they actually "ballast" the cars some in the rear. A couple of troopers I know still complain that the Magnum is "squirrelly" on slick roads.
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