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Old 03-18-2012, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Wherabouts Unknown!
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delta07 wrote:
I don't think it's relevant to compare our society to China and say to stop complaining.
Just the old guilt trip ploy. What comes to mind is the common manipulation employed by adults in the 50s and 60s. We were frequently reminded about the poor starving kids in India as a way to get us to eat every thing on our plates. It was mostly an utter failure, just like most guilt trip manipulation attempts. Any person with half a brain will see right thru the ploy and have a good laugh instead of feeling quilty. The few who might feel quilty are still not likley to do what the manipulator intended.
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Old 03-18-2012, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Delaware
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one week a year, lucky guys and gals you are. i just started working for the railroad as a conductor and you don't get any sick days or any vacation until after you mark up which takes about 5 to 7 months, and i have to work on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. stop crying about oh i only get one week a year, plus some sick days. if i'm sick, i have to mark off with no pay, and run the risk of getting written up and fired until the union starts covering me, which doesn't happen until i've worked 7 months for the railroad. so, i have to work up to 12 hour days or nights, get 10 hours off, and go back to work. but that is why they pay us a lot of money. but it's hard on personal life not having any time off but ten hours (which includes sleeping time) between shifts all week long, every week.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:06 AM
 
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IME, generally two weeks vacation, plus holidays, personal days, sick days, etc. is the basic leave package for a new hire. Some workplaces lump it all together as PTO, that is, Paid Time Off. Oftentimes the vacation pay increases fairly quickly to 3-4 wks/year.
Your field of work seems to offer rather generous benefits compared to most.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:08 AM
 
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wow this thread has gotten weird!

I'll chime in. When I worked at Colorado State University we had a very generous time off plan.
I'm shocked there are places that will only give you one week a year. That's kind of ridiculous. I mean, that would be eaten up by one trip to see your family over Christmas.
The world of Academia is detached from reality in many ways.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Your field of work seems to offer rather generous benefits compared to most.
Ya think? Engineering seems a lot better, from what I've seen with the jobs that DH has had. Still, I can't complain.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Colorado - Oh, yeah!
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wow this thread has gotten weird!

I'll chime in. When I worked at Colorado State University we had a very generous time off plan. I think we got something like 5 weeks off a year, plus holidays. We also got 10 hours of "sick" time a month, which could only really be used for actually being sick, or going to the doctor. Sick time could not be cashed out when you left the university like vacation time could. Vacation hours rolled over, but only for 1.5 years, so you had to spend it every year (which I liked).

I'm shocked there are places that will only give you one week a year. That's kind of ridiculous. I mean, that would be eaten up by one trip to see your family over Christmas.
I'm in a government job so I don't know that my results are typical. I got 12 days off the first three years and am now at 18 days a year. I also get 10 paid holidays and 12 sick days a year with a maximum vacation bank of 240 hours. There are also rules in place that allow me to convert some unused sick time into vacation time so I can get another week+ if I am not sick during the year. I'd say this is better than average.

Conversely, my wife has a new job and she gets one week off - period. There's some sick time in there as well, but not much. She gets the major holidays off, but she may have to work extra so they don't fall behind. This is clearly worse than average.

I'd consider two weeks off, 8-10 holidays and five sick days per year to be about average.
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Old 03-19-2012, 08:35 PM
 
Location: SE Portland, OR
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The world of Academia is detached from reality in many ways.
OR they've just got it right!
I think many people forget that extra time off might be offsetting a lower base salary.
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