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Old 04-19-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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Hi Guys and Girls,

My wife and I are thinking about moving from Sydney Australia to Colorado.
We have been looking online at areas around Denver like Littleton, Lakewood, Westminster.

We have never been to Colorado we are planning a trip June/July this year to come and check the place out.

We have no idea what are good area's what area's to avoid.
We do not want to be in the dead center of the city but we do want it to be within reach for shopping going out dinners etc

So what are some good areas?
What areas should we avoid?

How does your tax system work for the self employed ?, we both own our own companies.

What is crime like there, often we view the US as very high crime compared to Australia but what about Colorado?
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:04 AM
 
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The first thing you will find is that the climate is drastically different. You can read plenty about that on this forum. Coming in June and July, you will see Colorado at its season with generally its warmest and most pleasant weather--and greenest (relatively) vegetation. Understand that for more than 6 months of the year it is not like that at all. Don't be seduced by the pretty Chamber of Commerce-type photos that typically only show the area in the green of summer or snow-covered winter. In the lower elevations (like the metro area), the green only lasts during the summer months and winter months are snowless and brown for a good part of the winter.

As for the tax system, you will need to go through the maze of federal, state, and local tax systems in order to find out what all you will need to do to comply as both individuals and business owners. For someone from outside the US, that is a daunting task. If you are working in any type of business in Colorado selling goods, you need to know that Colorado has one of the most complex and byzantine sales tax systems of any state in the United States. It can be a nighmare for businesses to deal with.

As for crime, most areas of the Rocky Mountain West have middling crime statistics. Some areas of metro Denver are fairly safe, some are not very safe at all--just like most any metropolitan area.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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what are some good friendly/safe areas of denver?
Also when looking at rental properties on http://www.homes.com is the price listed per month? might sound funny but our listings here in Australia are all per week.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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Hi Guys and Girls,

My wife and I are thinking about moving from Sydney Australia to Colorado.
We have been looking online at areas around Denver like Littleton, Lakewood, Westminster.

We have never been to Colorado we are planning a trip June/July this year to come and check the place out.

We have no idea what are good area's what area's to avoid.
We do not want to be in the dead center of the city but we do want it to be within reach for shopping going out dinners etc

So what are some good areas?
What areas should we avoid?

How does your tax system work for the self employed ?, we both own our own companies.

What is crime like there, often we view the US as very high crime compared to Australia but what about Colorado?
LOL crime in colorado is prob comparable to Australia's. Colorado is not exactly some crime-ridden high profile area... it's very laid back filled with lots of tree-huggers, families, some intellectuals, hippies, pot heads, some bums, etc. Of course, like anywhere that humans being live there can be an element of crime, however nothing crazy...or exceptional

tax system will prob be nice for u being that you're an Australian used to paying high taxes. No GST here.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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LOL crime in colorado is prob comparable to Australia's. Colorado is not exactly some crime-ridden high profile area... it's very laid back filled with lots of tree-huggers, families, some intellectuals, hippies, pot heads, some bums, etc. Of course, like anywhere that humans being live there can be an element of crime, however nothing crazy...or exceptional

tax system will prob be nice for u being that you're an Australian used to paying high taxes. No GST here.
yes it will be good to get a cost less lifestyle, currently we are getting tax on top of tax on top of tax here, did you hear we are now putting a tax on carbon...yay!....NOT
as for this new tax just about the cost of everything is going up, electricity is going up 18% in july.

And petrol/fuel that will be going up too and you think you guys are paying a lot hahaha our current price is $1.65 per L so that's $6.24 per Gallon. And that price is just for the E10 which is 93octane with 10% ethanol blend.

Our state government also made the very stupid choice to sell off our government owned electricity,gas and water to private companies, so as for the prices now the skys the limit.....

Are all the utilities in Colorado government owned still?
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:48 AM
 
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Wink On selecting Denver

Rental prices are generally quoted for the month, not the week.

The climate will be distinctly different. You'll be moving from an area which is something less than sub-tropical to one something less than sub-alpine. Lots of sun throughout the year, but it will be cold and reliably snow at times in the winter; with summers in Denver being warm to hot (during the day). Mediating this, aside from the sun, is the relative lack of humidity; the air is quite dry, and one reason those moving from much more humid areas enjoy it, but also perhaps surprised at how much so.

For taxes, all I can tell you is that aside from federal income taxes, Colorado also has its state income tax, but at least property tax on residences is fairly low. For business purposes, you'll probably want to to secure the services of a professional. Often those with what should be fairly simple taxes do as much with their personal taxes, as unable to figure them out—through no fault of their own.

Compared to some other areas in the US, Colorado doesn't seem to suffer much crime. Although, even if the local news from the Denver stations (that the better part of what Colorado watches, through default) tends to be Denver-centric, it still seems whenever someone had their car stolen, or shot, or some awful thing, that the incident almost invariably somewhere in the Denver metro area. My impression in not living in Denver (or spending much time) is that it is generally safe; some areas may be more questionable, but a good many choices in better neighborhoods where crime more a matter of what one might happen to see on the news—somewhere else.

There are any number of suburbs surrounding Denver that offer most all the services in restaurants and shops that you'll likely want. Not only a good selection, but generally attractive, clean, and often fairly new buildings and design. As this is so often a given without much trouble if in a metro area, one might consider where their broader interests lie as well.

As example, Westminster would provide the most ready access northwest into Boulder and points beyond; while Lakewood would be best situated for easy access to I-70, it being the main route west into the mountains and some of the major resorts within. From Littleton one's best option to I-70 might be in looping around on CO 470, but less ideal than elsewhere, if headed west. If for some reason one often wanted to visit Boulder or Rocky Mountain National Park, then Westminster would make more sense than possibly the pain of driving through the better part of Denver.

While helpful to gain some idea in advance, all the more so to finally decide on a chosen address in person, so temporary lodging at first towards having that prerogative.

Good luck with the move.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:49 AM
 
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Home rentals are by the month, usually extra for the utilities which are rarely lumped into the rental for single family homes.

Also look at padmapper.com for rentals, and if it takes you to craigslist, please read and heed their warnings about scammers.
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Old 04-19-2012, 09:50 AM
 
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what are some good friendly/safe areas of denver?
Also when looking at rental properties on Homes.com - Homes for Sale, Real Estate & Rentals is the price listed per month? might sound funny but our listings here in Australia are all per week.
Yes, rental prices will be for the month in almost all cases. There will probably also be a security deposit equal to one month's rent that will need to be paid up front. In some situations, you may be asked to pay the first month, the last month, plus the deposit, all up front.

Sorry I can't comment on specific areas. Others will be chiming in soon, for sure.
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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Our state government also made the very stupid choice to sell off our government owned electricity,gas and water to private companies, so as for the prices now the skys the limit.....

Are all the utilities in Colorado government owned still?
Many have always been private. Most areas of the Front Range have public water and sewer entities, and private electricity and natural gas suppliers. An exception is Colorado Springs, where the electrical utility is city-owned.

Many rural areas of Colorado have Electric Co-ops that were an outgrowth from the federal Rural Electrification Administration (REA).

Rates for electrical utilities and natural gas suppliers are regulated by the Colorado Public Utilities Commision (PUC). Info here:

Public Utilities Commission Home Page
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Old 04-19-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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The city of COLO SPGS still owns the utility provider here, offering electric, natural gas, water and sewerage. The firm is Colorado Springs Utilities and they have lower rates than the corporate providers, so much so that at least two major corporate data centers (which use lots of power) are relocating here. Their page of rates is here. Utility prices here are listed at 88.9% of the national average.
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