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Old 07-20-2012, 12:29 PM
 
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Don't forget the Tucson shooter, who clearly looked psychotic in every photo of him.

There are rampage shootings in lots of places. I think the 24-hour "news" cycle has become a relatively recent thing, and Colorado happened to have a couple of major rampage shooters.

In 1973, I was working in an editing/office job in a south Jersey suburb on the highway. We worked evenings. One time, during the day, some guy went into the insurance company office across the highway, killed six people, paralyzed one and then killed himself. He was peeved because, a year before, he hadn't been hired as a security guard there. It made the south Jersey newspaper and maybe a mention in the Philly paper.

Etc.

 
Old 07-20-2012, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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I'm not a liberal, but I don't see how a CCW holder could have stopped this.

Darkness, tear gas, chaos. It would have helped if 100 CCW holders were in the theater, but not one or two.
If you have time and presence of mind to try to hide under a seat or get away, you have the opportunity to set up and shoot back. This guy was in there shooting for several (LONG) minutes. After the first few seconds of surprise wears off, you have time to act. Or time to die at his hand...your choice.
 
Old 07-20-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
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If you have time and presence of mind to try to hide under a seat or get away, you have the opportunity to set up and shoot back.
Running or hiding from danger is instinctive. Aim. Prepare. Fire. is an acquired skill, something 99% of CC people don't possess.
 
Old 07-20-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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If you have time and presence of mind to try to hide under a seat or get away, you have the opportunity to set up and shoot back. This guy was in there shooting for several (LONG) minutes. After the first few seconds of surprise wears off, you have time to act. Or time to die at his hand...your choice.
I concur, If you were down low and could get a shot, he wouldint be too hard to hit because of his position. Everyone was running away from his position, therefore you could single him out and emptying 16 rounds in a general pattern into the area of his position might have been a saving grace.
 
Old 07-20-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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I concur, If you were down low and could get a shot, he wouldint be too hard to hit because of his position. Everyone was running away from his position, therefore you could single him out and emptying 16 rounds in a general pattern into the area of his position might have been a saving grace.
Hey, why don't you take your breakdown of the appropriate tactical shooting techniques that you would employed if you were there to the gun control debate subforum. I'm sure that your nuanced breakdown would be quite appreciated.

That you just advocated a CCL holder to employ a suppressive fire technique in engaging a target is a cardinal sin.
 
Old 07-20-2012, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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Let's remember also that one minimally-trained off-duty private security guard was enough to stop the New Life massacre in its tracks. The Aurora shooter, despite being armored-up, pussed-out and gave up the minute the cops caught up with him outside. I do really wish they could have found a way to kill him right there.
 
Old 07-20-2012, 03:53 PM
 
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Just to put a perspective on it from NJ, these incidents generally don't happen here. Maybe a drug-related triple murder in Newark or Camden from time-to-time. But a random school or movie theater getting shot up by a fully-strapped nut with an AK, 2 handguns and a rifle? Not that I can remember. It's hard to own a gun here for the most part.

And to all the Dirty Harry's who think they would've popped this guy in a dark theater with smoke all around? C'mon, get a clue. He was also covered head-to-toe in armor.

AK's have no useful purpose OTHER than hunting down people. The public at large has no need for them.
 
Old 07-20-2012, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Noblesville, IN
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I wasn't going to post but I really wanted to express that not only does my heart go out to the folks in Aurora, but really, the whole state of Colorado. The reason is because people are going to make comments like "what's wrong with Colorado" and the truth, as someone else pointed out, is that there are crazies everywhere. I live in Texas and yes, there are crazies EVERYWHERE.

So I'm sad that people might jump to crazy conclusions...and I'm especially sad for those that are directly affected. I'm sad for the mother of the shooter (if in fact, she did not contribute) and sad that this violent person wasn't taken out of circulation well before he went off the deep end. But mostly, I'm sad that a perfectly wonderful American evening at the movies was forever ruined for so many people - and the loss they feel. I'm still in shock at the scope of this tragedy.
 
Old 07-20-2012, 04:46 PM
 
Location: West Texas
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I am a so-called "liberal"...I'm a democrat. I am also a proud gun owner, and believe in the right to bear arms. Not all democrats are "anti-gun". I love to shoot, and I cherish the right to be better prepared in the event of a crisis.
Now that being said..I do believe we need some laws tweaked a little bit. Again - this does not make me anti gun or anti-2nd amendment for crying out loud.
1. High capacity clips for ARs should not be legal for civilians. Will the worst of the worst still find a way to get them? Sure they will, but lets not make it LEGAL for Gods sake.
 
Old 07-20-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Denver
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The shooter was from California, San Diego to be exact.
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