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Old 06-13-2013, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO - Capitol Hill
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Originally Posted by Mike from back east View Post
Insurers are the ones who have to push the issue, first by raising premiums, especially on homes constructed with highly combustable materials in the danger areas. Then they can offer various discounts for homes with fire-resistant materials and/or good defensible space. Insurers are the ones who have sufficient lobbying strength to succeed at some tightening of construction standards.

These fires are not a fluke, they result from a "perfect storm" of factors:
- building in proximity to wildfire fuel sources (wooded areas)
- building with combustible materials (asphalt roof, shake shingling, vinyl siding, logs)
- insufficient defensible spaces
- complacency relative to amount of risk exposure (can't / won't happen here)
- climate warming cycle
- repetitive / long / perpetual droughts

Hopefully there'll be an insurance industry wake-up call as a result of this.
Edit: Nevermind, that's what you just said.

I haven't read through the 10 pages of this thread, but are wildfires common in CO? I read that last year's fire was previously the largest in state history? And that now this one replaces it as the most destructive? Scary.

 
Old 06-13-2013, 06:48 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Colorado has been going through a period of extended drought and warmer than usual temperatures. These conditions plus a misguided policy of fire suppression has caused Colorado forests to become extremely susceptible to outbreaks of wildfire. When this happens at the forest-urban interface, you get fires like the one last year in the Rockrimmon region and now the one in Black Forest. It is heart breaking to have our forests go up in flames and tragic for those who lose their homes and some, even their lives.

The drought is predicted to only get worse, so the fires will unfortunately continue to burn, as well. Colorado Springs is my home town, and I have been following the news of the fires with a sense of grief and disbelief. The people in Colorado Springs are in my prayers tonight.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: The beautiful Garden State
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Colorado has been going through a period of extended drought and warmer than usual temperatures. These conditions plus a misguided policy of fire suppression has caused Colorado forests to become extremely susceptible to outbreaks of wildfire. When this happens at the forest-urban interface, you get fires like the one last year in the Rockrimmon region and now the one in Black Forest. It is heart breaking to have our forests go up in flames and tragic for those who lose their homes and some, even their lives.

The drought is predicted to only get worse, so the fires will unfortunately continue to burn, as well. Colorado Springs is my home town, and I have been following the news of the fires with a sense of grief and disbelief. The people in Colorado Springs are in my prayers tonight.
I really wish that we could send you some of our rain. We've had too much rain in the NYC/NJ area in the last week, and the shore towns, which were so badly damaged by Sandy, are really worried about oversaturation of the ground and of flooding. There were some flooded roadways and downed trees this week.

We don't need this rain, and you need it so badly . . .
 
Old 06-13-2013, 07:08 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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BTW, can anyone tell me what's going on in Palmer Lake? I have friends there whom I haven't been able to reach on the telephone, and I'm concerned.

@NewJerseyMemories - Thank you for your kind wishes and concern. I wish we could have some of your rain, too.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 07:11 PM
 
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BTW, can anyone tell me what's going on in Palmer Lake? I have friends there whom I haven't been able to reach on the telephone, and I'm concerned.
Nothing happening in Palmer Lake.
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Old 06-13-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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48 of 52 buildings destroyed at the royal gorge park. Bridge is still in tact.
 
Old 06-13-2013, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Aurora, CO
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48 of 52 buildings destroyed at the royal gorge park. Bridge is still in tact.
So sad. Makes me glad I took the kiddos there last summer. They'll rebuild but it'll never be the same.

Last edited by bluescreen73; 06-13-2013 at 08:25 PM..
 
Old 06-13-2013, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Having lost everything I owned but the clothes I was wearing in a 2011 wildfire, all I can say is God Be With You!

It's simply not possible to describe what those poor people are going through.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 01:16 AM
 
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A news broadcast said that we all pay for these disasters (fire, flood, hurricane) - I in MN will pay for this fire via increased ins. premiums. A neighbor recently confirmed this - we all pay for the "cost of doing business". He kept mentioning Katrina - yes, but I live in MN - doesn't matter.
You also pay for the $60 Billion given to rebuild the tourist and Casino areas along the NY/NJ coast destroyed by Sandy. On the other hand, you will not pay for the West, TX disaster because Tx is a red state. In perspective, none of this matters much really. I pray for the people of Colorado that no more lives will be lost and that they will be able to recover from this disaster quickly. I want to cry.
 
Old 06-14-2013, 07:30 AM
 
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You also pay for the $60 Billion given to rebuild the tourist and Casino areas along the NY/NJ coast destroyed by Sandy. On the other hand, you will not pay for the West, TX disaster because Tx is a red state.
Red, blue, makes no difference you are not making a fair comparison. Apples & oranges.
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