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Old 05-10-2013, 10:31 AM
 
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It's a shame we didn't have a better version of 64 to pass, and a shame that this limit came out without a popular vote. I despise impaired driving. I'd like the first offense to result in taking the license and a lifetime requirement of having a breathalizer installed in their car. However, it is much harder to have respect for the law when stupid laws are made. Those that are drunk and severely impaired are not comparable to those that got high a few days ago and are functioning perfectly today.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:10 AM
 
Location: high plains
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Is there any chance of another citizen initiative to override the poor legislation outcome from A64, thus preventing long, expensive court battles and loss of respect for law enforcement (legislators have already lost respect)?
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:45 AM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I don't know the science behind the 5mg limit, and I don't know that much about marijuana period, but in the "olden days", there were no limits on alcohol either, it was left up to the police' discretion and it didn't work out too well. I think there has to be something objective.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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1968 was the first official DUI law. It has since been cut in half and "personally" I think the current level is extremely low with no discretion of the Officer. It affects everyone different.
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Old 05-14-2013, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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A cop who suspects a stop is under the influence of MJ should perhaps try a test directed at stoners, like they have the "walk a line" and "touch your nose" and backwards ABC's for drunk people. So offer them a Twinkie (or non-Hostess equivalent) and see what happens. Or show them on a portable DVD player a clip from Monty Python. Perhaps tell them a bad knock-knock joke. If the subject stares and blinks in perplexity and confusion, or says, "Excuse me, officer?" they are probably sober. If they devour the Twinkie and then giggle hysterically (while trying not to) at the joke or the clip...you've got a stoned person on your hands...


(^Insert tone of light-hearted snark. Please do not take too seriously.)

But in seriousness, this is probably the ONLY real issue I ever had with legalizing (which I generally support)...how do you really tell if someone is too impaired and shouldn't be driving? Is there even a realistic way to do this??
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Just south of the river
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Iris scans, maybe in the near future. Biometric science is capable of quantifying an intoxication level based on contraction and dilatation of the pupil. Problem: They need you sober first to compare pupilogram curve ratios (for now, until they build a big statistical database). No worries though, Homeland Security probably already has your (and mine) Bio data stashed away in a secret underground facility. The models out now can scan your retina from 6 feet away, without you even knowing it. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!

I got most of this information off the internet.
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