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Old 06-12-2015, 10:32 PM
 
Location: The 719
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Ok, I've changed my views on this.

Evidently, an 11 year old boy drowned rafting on Browns. They high sided, two other swimmers were ok, commercial rafters.

Condolences to the family and friends.
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Old 06-13-2015, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Where the mountains touch the sky
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I have done Brown's Canyon at 3200 cfs and it is seriously dangerous water. I would never take a kid through there at that level. But I worked as a raft guide in college and can attest that for many commercial operations it's about the dollars. I feel for his family and hope they can recover his body soon.
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Old 06-13-2015, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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Apparently yesterday Brown's Canyon was at 3,700 cfs. The river is scary to look at and I would never go out on it at these levels.

They recovered the boy's body yesterday. My heart goes out to his family. I hope the rafting company that took the boy out gets censured by whoever licenses them.
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Old 06-13-2015, 09:41 AM
 
Location: The 719
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I used to go rafting every 4th of July with friends who owned their own raft and the commercials were always way more conservative than we were.

But we didn't run until early July when there was still good runoff but the water was down enough to also be technical [rocks to steer around). Commercials usually pull their runs at some cfm, can't remember what that limit was set at.

Still wondering how safe an oar boat would be at this level.

3700 cfs is almost 2.4 billion gallons per day.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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3700 hundred in Browns is a blast if you know what you're doing, but for someone without whitewater experience, a swim in there would be terrifying. I certainly would want to avoid swimming it at that level. I would not bring an 11 year old on at that level. Frankly I'm surprised the AHRA allows it.

I had read that the boy's PFD possibly came off as well. Should not have happened. All around very sad.
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Old 06-13-2015, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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3700 hundred in Browns is a blast if you know what you're doing, but for someone without whitewater experience, a swim in there would be terrifying. I certainly would want to avoid swimming it at that level. I would not bring an 11 year old on at that level. Frankly I'm surprised the AHRA allows it.

I had read that the boy's PFD possibly came off as well. Should not have happened. All around very sad.
Can you do Numbers with that much water? Not that I'd want to, but we were curious.
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Old 06-13-2015, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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Can you do Numbers with that much water? Not that I'd want to, but we were curious.
I kayak, and yes I can. The commercial rafters do not.
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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Can you do Numbers with that much water? Not that I'd want to, but we were curious.
Got on The Numbers at 4000cfs this weekend. So big!
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Old 06-22-2015, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Na'alehu Hawaii/Buena Vista Colorado
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Got on The Numbers at 4000cfs this weekend. So big!
WOW. I guess we need to run over there and see if we can watch some people going down through there. It must be amazing.
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Old 06-23-2015, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Washington Park, Denver
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WOW. I guess we need to run over there and see if we can watch some people going down through there. It must be amazing.
Highest I have ever run it. It was big and fun. I caught air coming off the the tops of some of the waves. It's still Class IV in my opinion. Just big water Class IV, but very continuous. It reminded me a lot of Idaho boating. I wish it was like that more often! 😀
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