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Old 07-24-2013, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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It's funny you would mention the military. Accountability tends to run higher amongst those in ranks because of the amount of public trust bestowed upon the military. Don't believe me? ...

This is also why I favor term limits in the U.S. House and Senate but that's a topic for a different thread.

I saw a bumper sticker that read, "Politicians are like diapers. They need to be changed often. And for the same reason." Truer words have never been spoken.
In the military, it depends on what the accountability is about. What reputation does the modern military have in Okinawa, and why? What's all this fuss about rape in the military? Some things are held strictly. Other things have been overlooked.

As for term limits. That is an issue I have struggled with for years. On the one hand, why shouldn't citizens be able to elect whom they want. I would agree with term limits IF after sitting out an election a candidate could then run again.

 
Old 07-24-2013, 09:56 PM
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Location: Fredericksburg/Virginia Beach, VA
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In the military, it depends on what the accountability is about. What reputation does the modern military have in Okinawa, and why? What's all this fuss about rape in the military? Some things are held strictly. Other things have been overlooked.
The reputation is bad, no doubt about it. But that does not mean those responsible for committing crimes were not held responsible. Also, sexual harassment is a huge in the military right now. It's got Congress bringing in all the top brass to answer questions. But when compared to other cross sections of society, we are actually not too bad. I don't want to sound like I am mitigating the documented cases because this is a very serious issue. But the truth is we actually do a better job responding to sexual assault/harassment than pretty much every major university in the country, as well as many civilian corporations. But we are held to a higher standard in the military and rightly so. There is a matter of public trust to consider and the same is true (or should be) of elected officials.

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As for term limits. That is an issue I have struggled with for years. On the one hand, why shouldn't citizens be able to elect whom they want. I would agree with term limits IF after sitting out an election a candidate could then run again.
I'd really like to comment further on why we should impose term limits, but the topic is Colorado's recall elections, not term limits. As it stands, a recall of John Morse would not necessarily end his political career. He could resurface in some other office or maybe even run again for the office he'd previously held.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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That's right. Gun rights. Civil rights. Our rights. I take any infringement on the right to bear arms as seriously as an infringement on civil liberties. I'm glad even the ACLU takes notice of it too.
The anti-slaughter laws are NOT an infringement on the right to bear arms. These legislators were acting in the interest of public safety and KUDOS to them.

You want to help ALEC, go ahead. You might as well join an S&M club.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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The anti-slaughter laws are NOT an infringement on the right to bear arms. These legislators were acting in the interest of public safety and KUDOS to them.

You want to help ALEC, go ahead. You might as well join an S&M club.
And please elaborate how these laws address the criminals or their actions. We'll wait...
 
Old 07-25-2013, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Read this:

A definitive review of Colorado gun laws - The Denver Post

This:

Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

'...one definition is that law is a system of rules and guidelines which are enforced through social institutions to govern behavior.[SIZE=2][3][/SIZE] Laws are made by governments, specifically by their legislatures.'
 
Old 07-25-2013, 04:16 PM
 
Location: 80904 West siiiiiide!
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Read this:

A definitive review of Colorado gun laws - The Denver Post

This:

Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

'...one definition is that law is a system of rules and guidelines which are enforced through social institutions to govern behavior.[SIZE=2][3][/SIZE] Laws are made by governments, specifically by their legislatures.'

Right, because naturally, criminals will all of a sudden just start following new laws.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Western, Colorado
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Read this:

A definitive review of Colorado gun laws - The Denver Post

This:

Law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

'...one definition is that law is a system of rules and guidelines which are enforced through social institutions to govern behavior.[SIZE=2][3][/SIZE] Laws are made by governments, specifically by their legislatures.'
I know what the new laws are. Judging from your post, I'm not too sure you do, at least pertaining to the question I asked you.
 
Old 07-25-2013, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Right, because naturally, criminals will all of a sudden just start following new laws.
So by your logic, we should eliminate laws against murder and rape, because criminals will do it anyway.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 05:24 AM
 
Location: 80904 West siiiiiide!
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So by your logic, we should eliminate laws against murder and rape, because criminals will do it anyway.
They're sure helping, aren't they! And for the record, I said ACLU, not ALEC. I know it hurts for you, but at least try to read posts correctly.
 
Old 07-26-2013, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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They're sure helping, aren't they! And for the record, I said ACLU, not ALEC. I know it hurts for you, but at least try to read posts correctly.
I didn't discuss ACLU or ALEC. What are you talking about?
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